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The Crazy Weekend in Sports

March 12th, 2007 by Andy in Uncategorized, High School, College

Where do we begin after the Crazy Weekend in Sports?  The WhirlieGirls of Grimsley lost after being up by 14 points at the half and by 11 at the end of the third quarter in their state championship game at Chapel Hill.  Grimsley has 4 of 5 starters returning next season so maybe the loss to Southview in the finals is just a bump in the road.

How ’bout them Heels?  How about that Wolfpack?  The Heels win the ACC Tournament, but the Wolfpack has all five of it’s starters on either the first or second unit of the All-Tournament team.  Brandon Costner(Wolfpack) scores 90 points to set a tournament record, but Brandon Wright(Heels) is the tourney MVP with 47 points scored over 3 games.  Don Shea has a Crazy N.C. State show that airs on TV 45 on Sunday night that shows pretty much nothing but video highlights with play-by-play from the radio guy Gary Hahn.  Don says roll the tape and away they go.

Crazy Eric wins the prize in our ACC Tournament contest by being the only entry to pick North Carolina to win it all and he gets the $15.00 Gift Certificate from Golden Corral.

The Guilford College men lost in the NCAA Division III tournament on Saturday night but they won the previous evening when they defeated Lincoln Memorial 129-128 in triple OT and Big Ben Strong had 59 points.  That’s Crazy.

In some other games from the weekend the high school baseball scene is getting much more exciting.  Grimsley beat Page on Friday night 4-1 behind ace pitcher Clint Moore’s 15 big strikeouts.  That’s pretty Crazy, 15 K’s.  Southeast Guilford and Southwest Guilford are both still unbeaten, SEG is 4-0 and SWG is 3-0 and don’t forget Northwest Guilford is also 4-0 after Friday night’s 14-1 win over High Point Central.  For SEG in their win over Southern, Austin Moyer had 2 homeruns and 6 RBI’s.  That’s pretty Crazy.

I got to see a few minutes of the boys Lacrosse game over at Grimsley on Friday night while the baseball game was going on and during my TSV(time spent viewing) Jackson Hoggard scored a key goal for the Whirlies in their 6-5 win over Southeast GuilfordJackson is the son of David Hoggard who runs Hogg’s Blogwww.hoggsblog.com 

Speaking of Grimsley I hit the outdoor hardcourt again on Sunday afternoon and got in my weekly or weakly basketball action.  Three-on-three, four-on-four, full court five-on-five and then two-on-two to close out the day’s activities.  Went up against one of the Grimsley football players on Sunday when Micah Daub took to the court.  Daub is 6′2, 240 and he gets around pretty good for a big guy.  Daub left quite an impression on me and my teammate Attorney Jan Pritchett.  We had to fight like Crazy Dogs just to get a win against Daub and his co-hort Jeffrey.

To close out this visit we need to at least touch on the Tolly Carr incident.  What was Carr thinking?  Driving while drunk down a closed street.  Maybe it’s not what was Carr thinking, but how much was Carr drinking?  Tolly Carr of NEWS 12 was sports reporter and sports cameraman for several years before he moved over to News.  Doug Cockman sent me word of this tragic incident(Carr was driving a truck and hit and killed a man who was walking down the street) on Sunday evening and I hate to see something like this happen.  It is really like I told Doug and then again Jim Modlin this morning, “If you don’t drink, you’ll never get pulled for drunk driving”.  Tolly Carr made the mistake of drinking and then driving and now an innocent person is dead and many people will be forced to suffer and that is CRAZY.

   

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  1. George said,

 

on March 13th, 2007 at 8:55 am

Tolly Carr will never work in the TV industry again. This will follow him everywhere he goes. He got toasted and he is toast and the sad thing is just because Tolly Carr wanted to get drunk a poor soul ends up dead.

  1. Tom said,

 

on March 13th, 2007 at 9:47 am

I also think Carr is in big trouble and I want to say GO WOLFPACK in the NIT tournament. More on the NEWS 12 deal, it looks like Bill O’Neil has turned on his best friend Tolly Carr.

  1. JD said,

 

on March 13th, 2007 at 11:23 am

Carr’s career is over. He will have to move to another town and change his name but I bet you he will only have to serve 2-3 years in jail if that. He refused the breathalyzer test and they didn’t take the blood test until 4 hours after the arrest so the blood-alcohol content level should have been way lower than at the time of his arrest. Carr has a good lawyer and he will get out of this mess with just a few scars but the guy he hit is dead and gone. You know that TV 12 is still paying Carr and Tolly Carr will never have to suffer like the family of the victim.
Not to change far from a very serious subject but are the NIT games on TV? I will be pulling for the N.C. State Wolfpack along with Tom and many others and why didn’t South Carolina get into the NIT field, they could be going for 3 championships in a row.

  1. Andy said,

 

on March 13th, 2007 at 12:44 pm

From what I saw N.C. State will be on ESPN or ESPNU. If it is ESPNU then we don’t get that around here and the fans are sunk and will need to go to WSJS 600AM radio. I thought ESPN was big into the NIT and that we would see NC State for sure but maybe not. I also saw on the web where Ernie “the Big Cat” Ladd died over the weekend from complications due to Cancer. Ladd was 68 yrs. old and he played at Grambling U for Eddie Robinson and later in the NFL for the San Diego Chargers and the Kansas City Chiefs. Ladd stood 6′9 and weighed 315 and in his later years he was a pastor down in Louisiana.

  1. Dave said,

 

on March 13th, 2007 at 2:48 pm

Tolly Carr made a big mistake.

  1. Dave said,

 

on March 13th, 2007 at 2:51 pm

I will continue what I was saying before I had to to grab a phone call. Tolly Carr made a big mistake. The man deserves a second chance. Let the healing process begin.

  1. Billy said,

 

on March 13th, 2007 at 4:56 pm

Dave you are so right. Tolly messed up but we need to give him a break. Tolly will do well again. We are all brothers and sisters trying to make the world go round. Please give Tolly Carr a second chance and keep all the effected families in your prayers. We must work together to find a solution.

  1. Andy said,

 

on March 13th, 2007 at 5:11 pm

Tolly Carr messed up Big Time and he should have to serve time in jail. How much time will be determined by the courts.

  1. Greg said,

 

on March 13th, 2007 at 5:15 pm

I bet the family of the kid that was killed wishes he could get a second chance, TC deserves no break at all from this— The solution is you DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE is that to hard to understand.

  1. Marshall Brown said,

 

on March 13th, 2007 at 7:51 pm

What are yall talking about? Give him a second chance? He killed a person, not only a person, but by all accounts a very bright sweet young man who was doing nothing wrong just a few feet from his front door. It is not up to us anyway and he will always have to live with what he has done, but yall are acting like he got drunk and ran over a dog!

  1. Rick said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 10:24 am

Tolly is good friend of mine and he really is hurting and this a very tragic situation. Tolly is the only real survivor and we need to remember him so he doesn’t do anything crazy. The man who died is gone and he can’t be helped, but at least Tolly is still here and we need to do what we can to help him in his time of need. Tolly has reached out and helped many people in our community and we need to reach out and help this young man who is hurting and is feeling so much pain after the tragic accident.

  1. Andy said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 11:02 am

Tolly Carr already did something crazy and what about the family of the guy that got killed?

  1. Carolyn said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 11:34 am

I only know Tolly through seeing him on the news. I think that he did a wonderful job on the news and he brought morning joy to many of people. I am retired but I get up every moring to watch the early morning news because it was a way of getting my day started…seeing the fun that Tolly and the moring team was having. Now, from a mother who lost her only child(son) by a driver who failed to yield the right of way and negilent driving(no alcohol involved) my heart goes out to the partents who have to bury their child. My heart also goes out to Tolly who will have to live with and go through as much pain as the loved ones of the deceased. I know that the death of a child is the greatest tradgedy that any parent will ever face. However, I know that the man that caused my son’s death and Tolly did know plan to cause anyone’s death. It was an accident and weather driving while drunk or driving sober will not bring back our children. We should pray ye one for another.

  1. Trena Dean in W-S said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 11:41 am

I atched Tolly every moring and Iwas proud of how he carried himself as an educated black man. Im not sure if he will see this but ……… I am praying for you . God Bless!!!

  1. not given said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 12:02 pm

I haven’t seen this on tv reported yet…but I am hearing throught the grapevine that Tolly Carr either attempted suicide or has commiteed suicide.

  1. Kitty said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 12:55 pm

Tolly will rise again…he’s young and I know this must be eating him alive but he has to pay the price for his actions just as any of us would have to do….unless your name is Ted Kennedy..remember Chappaquidick???

  1. not given said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 12:57 pm

Thank you for contacting FOX8. We heard the rumor this morning as well, and checked it out. We spoke to a faculty member at WSSU who says he spoke to Tolly “20 minutes ago” and that the story that Tolly committed suicide is just a rumor, spreading on the college campus.

Thanks for watching FOX8,

Josh Roberts

Producer, FOX8 5:00 News

josh.roberts@foxtv.com

(336) 821-1165

  1. Jeff said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 2:00 pm

If all that we are hearing about Tolly Carr is true then we need to get in Carr’s Corner. TC needs us right now and we will be praying for him in our Wednesday evening service. Reverend Jeffrey Davis from Charlotte, NC

  1. @@@ said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 2:11 pm

I also heard the rumor and I hope and pray that it is not true. Tolly was my teacher at WSSU and he was always an easygoing and friendly guy that me and my classmates looked up to. He was a young instructor and actually working in the field that we were learning about so he gave us something to aspire to.

I feel really bad for the family of the victim, but we cannot forget that Tolly is suffering to. As Carolyn said, he did not intentionally set out to harm anyone that night. People make mistakes. Often mistakes stem from poor decisions, which is what happened in this instance. I just hope that everyone involved can reach some type of resolution and move on with their lives. I hope I don’t sound insensitive to the family of the victim because that is truly not my intent. They have been in my thoughts and prayers since first I heard about this tragic accident on Sunday evening.

  1. Jen said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 2:21 pm

Many of us have committed similar mistakes…I know when I was younger, I climbed behind the wheel after a few drinks. It’s certainly nothing I’m proud of, but if I would’ve taken someone’s life…1.) it would be so hard to live with the pain that I brought to someone else’s life; 2.) I would deserve the punishment that would be handed down. We all make mistakes…yes…but the point of our system is that we are held accountable for them. Tolly seems like a nice guy, but we are all accountable for what we do. We can forgive him (& so might his victim’s family), but he still needs to serve some sort of “sentence” for his actions. Our system would not work at all if we accepted every sob story for a reason to get out of a punishment. Then repeat drunk drivers & child molesters could just say “ooops…my bad”, & keep doing what they did. I’m not putting Tolly in that category, but I hope you understand my meaning. Tolly should definitely serve time…it can be his time of reflection to turn his life towards another purpose…but without it, it shows disrespect to the life he took.

  1. Chris said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 2:29 pm

I see this as an event that might divide our communities. Let’s us try to pull together and not let our emotions tear us apart and destroy many long-term friendships. This might be the very thing that can bring our Triad together. Our thoughts go out to Tolly and the family of the young man that was killed and isn’t a bit sad, his name is hardly ever mentioned in our comments. Does anyone know his exact name and how we could reach his family and send them a card. This healing process will be slow but hopefully something positive will come out of this tragedy.

  1. sheila said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 4:01 pm

I think people should stop spreading rumors about this situation, forst because this is not a murder it is and was an accident. Secondly there has not been a trial of any sorts, so if you have any decency at all, stop these lies because you do not know exactly what has happened. We all feel his pain because we all know him from television, and believe me he still has a vision to tell, so lets give him a chance to make up for his mistakes, and tell us what has happened. Thank you very much!

  1. David Thigpen said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 4:04 pm

HI-

To Dave and anyone who says Tolley deserves a second chance should come to the funeral tomorrow in Winston and see all of Casey’s friends say goodbye to him. It’s our last chance with him. There is no second chance. He made a mistake. He should pay for it and not have a shot at immediate freedom. He was without remorse at the scene, asking people not to call 911, because he didn’t even know that one my closest friends body was smeared under a car. Anyone who says he deserves a second chance should take another look at his smug mug shot. His refusal to take a breathalizer only deepens his guilt. His no commenting, hiding, and not even a writen apology have been issued. He just wants to get out of it. I’m not saying he should spend his life behind bars. Just a good decade in prison with the sodomites’ll do. Anyone disagree? Let’s talk it out. I’ll be at Casey’s funeral wearing his favorite pair of boots. I’d love to hear your arguments you dumb little fleebs. david thigpen

  1. Doug said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 4:12 pm

WXII, if they have not already done it, should set up a memorial fund for the family of the young man who was killed. As for Tolly, I hope that he can turn this situation into a positive. If his awful experience can help others learn from his mistakes, maybe something good can come from this. Tolly seems like a good guy and after reading his bio, you must respect how he worked his way up the latter at WXII. As for those who profess to have Christian values, prayers should be said for both the victim and for Tolly. I hope the victim’s family can find it in their hearts to forgive Tolly and that the Lord will give Tolly some peace in his heart.

  1. Beth said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 4:44 pm

The 26 year old young man that lost his life in the terrible accident was Casey Ryan Bokhoven. I don’t know how to get in touch with his family but if I could reach them I would tell them we all share in their grief. Why aren’t more people showing concern for Casey and his family. The only man to step up and tell it like it is was David Thigpen. From what David is telling us, Tolly was saying don’t call the cops I’ll give you my license tag number and we can take care of things tomorrow. Channel 12 is trying to protect Carr if you ask me. WXII will try to sweep it all under the rug and look how much TV time they gave to Big Paul Franklin back when he died. Do something for somebody that’s not a big celebrity like Tolly Carr and Big Paul. Why not do something to help Casey Bokhoven? TV 12 sure made a big deal out of Big Paul’s death and they will make a similar move in protecting Tolly Carr. Where is the justice in letting Carr walk out without having to post bond? David Thigpen said it right, all of the Tolly Carr followers should have to attend Casey Bokhoven’s funeral. If you can’t tell it already, I’m mad and it won’t end until Tolly Carr issues a public apology. God help us all and may Casey Bokhoven rest in peace and let’s start saying some prayers for Casey’s family, all I’m hearing is let’s remember Tolly Carr when we go to church, Tolly’s not dead, he was given a second chance but what about Casey?

  1. scott said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 5:44 pm

No wxii will not protect him once the blood results are in they will drop him like a hot potatoe part of his contract is to NOT bring any negative light to the station

  1. Robert said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 6:08 pm

Many of you are acting like some sort of mob and that Tolly should hang for his mistakes. Let the police finish their investigations and don’t jump to conclusions. You weren’t there that night and at least Tolly is still here and I think he will be willling to take his punishment like a man. Believe it or not things will get better with time as we move forward. Don’t send Tolly to Hell, he probably feels like he has already been to Hell and back. What would you be saying if Tolly Carr was your son?

  1. Robert said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 6:31 pm

All I know is that I wouldn’t want to be in Tolly’s shoes. I can’t imagine a greater burden to bear. I also can’t imagine the nightmare the Bokhoven family is going through. The brother having to tell his father that his son is dead. The whole thing is beyond heartbreaking.

  1. Hart said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 8:07 pm

To all concerned,

For those of you who don’t know;
Casey Bokhoven died Sunday morning @ 340am.
After being smashed by a truck going 55mph in a construction zone.
Which was driven over a sidewalk by Tolly Carr;
who was so intoxicated
that he didn’t realize
he had hit him
until twenty minutes
after his truck had impacted into the side of a wall.

The is gross negligence.
Gross irresponsibility on the part of Tolly Carr.

I am wondering to any of those who may know, why hasn’t Tolly Carr been charged with 2nd degree murder or at the very least vehicular manslaughter?

Casey was my brother.
He was a Graffiti Guy.

He was family.

He was always at ease.

He was our peacemaker.

I always thought of Casey as this hairy little troll goblin.
His exuberance matched only by his lackadaisical grace.
Twirling a lite cigarette like a magic wand.

Evoking passion and goodwill wherever he went…

Since I found out that he died…
His face keeps popping in my head.

He always had this goofy-wide eyed grin.

Smiles and snaps.

He wasn’t a serious guy.

(save family)

He had realized at a young age
the dangerous trap of being too serious.

Oh, and the ladies,
the ladies loved Casey.

Anyway, I am wondering why Mr. Tolly Carr hasn’t been charged with vehicular manslaughter.

Are the police building a case before they declare formal charges as they have alluded?

or

Is my friend Casey not a person?

Is he not a citizen?

Does my friend not deserve justice?

Will Mr. Tolly Carr get away with this reckless behavior?

For more information on funereal arrangements:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17610355/

http://www.wxii12.com/news/11243159/detail.html

Praise the living memory of Casey.

I haven’t spoken to Casey in five years.

I took for granted the inevitability of breaking bread with this man again.

Now I never will….

  1. JOHN HAMMOND said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 9:13 pm

Casey Bokhoven’s death did not have to happen. Tolly Carr MADE A CHOICE to get behind the wheel of the truck that night drunk, so drunk in fact at the scene of this heinous crime, HE DID NOT REALIZE THAT MY FRIEND WAS DEAD UNDER HIS TRUCK. The man is SCUM. This is so disgraceful, and my friend Casey deserved so much more than this. THE MAN HAS YET TO MAKE A COMMENT TO THE FAMILY ABOUT THIS SITUATION. Tolly Carr has taken so much from so many, with this ignorant error in judgement. The man should be held accountable for taking the life of my friend. Tolly Carr should ROT. Please if you read this send a prayer or good thought to Casey’s family, his girlfriend, and all of the friends that won’t get the chance to talk to Casey again.

  1. Greg said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 9:39 pm

TC is hiding behind his lawyer now he is a public figure you think he would make a public statement.

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 9:55 pm

This is Sean Bokhoven. I am Casey’s brother. I could throw up reading this crap on this page. “Give Tolly a 2nd chance”…”Tolly was great b/c he worked his way up threw the news-channel”? This is the lamest thing I’ve ever heard. And who said “wait for the trial b/c this is rumors so far” Rumors? The only rumor was the suicide. And I am glad that was false b/c I want Tolly to see our faces in court. Want facts? Here’s some:

1) Tolly was completely hammered.
2) Tolly was refused drinks at at least 2 bars that we have eye witnesses at so far.
3) Tolly argued over the cab fare & decided it would be cheaper to drive himself home.
4) He drove down a closed street…I guess the “closed” barricades didn’t apply to him.
5) My brother died…they found his shoes in the bushes & his body under Tolly’s truck.
6) Tolly argued & cussed at a pedestrian that stopped to help him & the passenger. (They of course not knowing about my brother at that point).
7) 2 of the people he yelled at to NOT call 911 was my bro’s g/f. Ouch Tolly…I doubt that will help you.
8) My brother worked hard as a cook at McDonalds in high school to being a chef at a major country club….does that earn him the same 2nd chance you people are demanding for Tolly?
9) You drink, you drive, you pay the price.

I pray that Tolly gets what he deserves in this. I am sorry for his family, it wasn’t there fault. But it WAS Tolly’s. I promise you this Tolly, you will get what you deserve either in this life or the next.

I love you Casey,

Sean Bokhoven

PS: If you any of “Tolly Supporters” have a hard time w/ this I will be glad to discuss this after the funeral friday night. I will be the one in all black saying goodbye to my brother.

  1. Alex Sin said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 10:14 pm

Anyone who feels that a murderer who can drive drunk and take the life of such a wonderful person is a fool. That jackass Tolly Carr needs to pay for the murder he commited! He took the life of a dear friend who is more of a brother to many and he can not be given back to us! Tell Tolly he deserves a second chance when I can hang out with my friend again!! Tolly Carr is a pathetic coward who hides behind his lawyer and can’t even make a simple apology to a murder he commited!

  1. Ben Browder said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 10:14 pm

I too, cannot believe what I have read. I HIGHLY doubt the people that think Tolly deserves a second chance, or that feel sorry for Tolly have had a family member killed by a drunk driver. There is absolutely NO excuse for this. Yes, Tolly WILL get a second chance. Casey wont. Tolly’s family members will see him again. Nobody will see Casey again. To add to the fact that this guy killed an inocent human being, I have had conversations with many people that worked with Tolly and have met him. EVERY single person had something negative to say about the guy. SHOCKER. Face it, he is a drunk cocky asshole. Like Sean said, he is probably more concerned with how he is going to get out of this “problem” than the fact that he killed an amazing man. I mean, the guy hasnt even apologized to Sean and the rest of Casey’s family. Thats bullshit and it along with what he did shows his true colors. So in conclusion, for anybody that feels pity for Tolly Carr, re-evaluate your morals.

  1. Teresa said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 10:17 pm

Casey Bokhiven’s family are in my prayers, I pray God will touch each one of them and bring them peace. What happen to him was unfair. And I agree Tolly did wrong, however, how many of us out here have done the same thing at one time or another. With the only difference we didn’t get caught driving UI or hurting someone. Think about it. I can’t help but to wonder why if Casey Bokhiven so sadly killed , would have been killed by any other person named Tolly, instead of Tolly Carr WXII most of us wouldn’t have even gave it a second thought. AND I FIND THAT VERY UPSETTING AND SAD!!! May the Bokhivens and the Carrs Find peace in their hearts and GODS love. Bless all of you.

  1. Ben Browder said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 10:20 pm

#
Robert said,

on March 14th, 2007 at 6:08 pm

Many of you are acting like some sort of mob and that Tolly should hang for his mistakes. Let the police finish their investigations and don’t jump to conclusions. You weren’t there that night and at least Tolly is still here and I think he will be willling to take his punishment like a man. Believe it or not things will get better with time as we move forward. Don’t send Tolly to Hell, he probably feels like he has already been to Hell and back. What would you be saying if Tolly Carr was your son?

I would disown him for being such an incredible DUMBASS. And I would tell him to buck up and ATLEAST apologize to the Bokhovens. But he can’t. He is a coward.

  1. Sumer Joyce said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 10:23 pm

For anyone who feels sorry for Tolly: Would you feel sorry for Tolly if it were your son/brother/friend who was murdered in that accident? NO, you wouldn’t. Maybe you should consider how you would feel if you were close to the person who was murdered, and didn’t just look up to Tolly because he was on the morning news. When Tolly realized he had killed someone that morning, the first thing he did was run away from the scene and use his cell phone because he was in trouble… not because he had done something horrible and felt any guilt. No apology to the family or a public statement further proves that he is only worried about himself… he’s not the kind of person I would ever feel sorry for.

Casey, we miss you and you will never be forgotten.

Please don’t drink and drive!

  1. j. hofer said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 10:24 pm

i met casey a few times with his brother sean around greensboro at music clubs. i hardly knew casey at all, but the few conversations i had i could tell he was a cool dude. its truly a tragic, unnecessary loss.

all you people defending tolly make me sick… saying he ‘made a mistake’ driving drunk? unreal. you people shouldnt be allowed to drive if you think driving drunk is a MISTAKE. its straight up stupid. give him a second chance? why. this was no dog he ran over and killed, it was a person nearly arms length from his front door.

i hope this eats tolly alive every day of his life until his dying day. and i hope after all the investigates are complete, that he gets what he deserves.

rip casey, my thoughts are with his family and loved ones.

as for you tolly… i believe karma will find you

  1. Jessica Ratledge said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 10:31 pm

I am Jessi Ratledge. Casey’s “Little Bean”. He was my room mate and best friend. Any of you who say Tolly deserves a second chance should think again. How can you say that? Obviously you have no idea what Casey’s family and friends are going through. Evidently you cannot begin to fathom the hurt and grief that have been caused due to Tolly Carr’s stupid, bastard, irresponsible, fucked up, absolutely idiotic ass. Those words are not enough to explain what scum he is for being a fucked up individual who was too fucking stupid to get a goddamn cab. Fuck him and anyone who is on his side. This is not about Tolly Carr, this situation is about Casey and how he did not deserve this. It is a tragedy. More than a tragedy. Casey will be missed more than most can imagine. He was the love of my friend life, and always will be.

I love you, Casey.

- Little Bean

  1. JOHN HAMMOND said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 10:34 pm

This is sickening. TOLLY CARR IS A MURDERER!!!! I don’t condemn this worm to hell, its not my call, but I plan to honor my friend and fallen brother and speak my mind and feelings. Casey will not be forgotten. THERE IS NO REASONABLE JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS COWARDS ACTIONS. So I conclude this rant with a question to any of you Tolly Carr fans, do you feel cheated yet? Do you feel dirty after reading all of the comments listed previously? I hope reason will prevail, I’m encouraging everyone right now to celebrate Casey and to quit wasting our time talking about this self absorbed creton. We shouldn’t even disgrace Casey by saying this coward’s name in the same sentence. Only if that sentence involved the word murder. Pray that Tolly Carr will man up and say something to Casey’s family so they can begin to find closure to this.

  1. israel said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 10:35 pm

we should help and support tolly because he is the only survivor…. we cant help the dead? what an f’n joke. i guess the surviving jews should have supported hitler since he actually survived the hollicost…. doesn’t make much since does it. tolly had many choices…. take a cab? travel on a road that is open? he is a murderer for his horrific mistakes. how bout this… we can skip the trial completely…. we’ll post tolly up in front of his house…. then i’ll promptly run over him…. dragging him to his death a few houses down….. then i’ll have some of my friends come and get me in the morning at the jail and it wont cost them a cent…. and then they can bring his phone and hat to his family. im sure they would want to support me with open arms. get a clue!

  1. Ben Browder said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 10:54 pm

we should help and support tolly because he is the only survivor…. we cant help the dead? what an f’n joke. i guess the surviving jews should have supported hitler since he actually survived the hollicost…. doesn’t make much since does it. tolly had many choices…. take a cab? travel on a road that is open? he is a murderer for his horrific mistakes. how bout this… we can skip the trial completely…. we’ll post tolly up in front of his house…. then i’ll promptly run over him…. dragging him to his death a few houses down….. then i’ll have some of my friends come and get me in the morning at the jail and it wont cost them a cent…. and then they can bring his phone and hat to his family. im sure they would want to support me with open arms. get a clue!

^ is this a joke? you have GOT to be kidding.
first of all, Carr isnt a survivor, he is a murderer. There was nothing on his end to survive. How are you comparing a drunk guy running somebody over to Hitler and the Holocaust? Thats INSANELY retarded. And since we can’t help the dead…that means we should automatically feel sorrow for Carr and help him out and take his side? I don’t even know why I am responding to this post because it is so moronic. I am sure others will agree. But to add to the last “point?” you made…I don’t even think running over Carr as what happened to Casey is NEAR deserving for what he did.

  1. Ben Browder said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 10:57 pm

Oh yea I meant to also note that Hitler did not “survive” the Holocaust, as he was the ring leader of it all. Idiot.

And learn to spell Holocaust, if you are going to TRY and make an insanely retarded point.

  1. cortney h said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 11:03 pm

Is this for real? A beautiful man died by the blatant ignorance of another’s. The phrase “We all make Mistakes” does not APPLY HERE!!! I know what I know… and Tolly Carr deserves no benefit of the doubt. Casey doesn’t have another chance, neither should he. You people think of what Casey’s family is going through…this is real…it’s not going to fade away for them. I only WISH I could have known Casey more than I did.
RIP
CASEY RYAN BOKHOVEN
Always in My Thoughts & Heart
Cortney H.

  1. L T-E said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 11:21 pm

The support for TC is repulsive. Some of you think you know this man because he shows up on your TV every morning. You’re wrong. In fact, you probably have no idea who this man is. For all we know he could’ve been an alcoholic, seeing as he has been known for getting cut off at bars and denying cab rides home. Refusing to take a breathalizer test couldnt make it any more evident on his inebriation. Yelling at witnesses not to call 911 makes it even more apparent he is a criminal. Who knows how many times this man has driven while intoxicated! I seriously doubt this was the first time, and it is unfortunate and most tragic that it took the death of a friend for this criminal to be exposed. Casey Bokhoven was an amazing person who touched the lives of many. Because of TCs poor decision on driving drunk, an innocent life has been taken away forever. There is no second chance for Casey. In most other countries, there wouldnt be a second chance for TC. The fact that he is a freakin anchorman that some of you seem to think is such a nice person should not plan any factor in his consequences. No length of time in jail will ever come close to what TC truly deserves. He is a murderer. The absolute LEAST he should’ve done is make an apology. It disgusts me that he cant even muster up the courage to do that. He is indeed a coward. Why some of you send him flowers and support him…just blows my mind.

  1. Teresa said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 11:22 pm

Was anyone that is posting here there that night? If you were not there then you don’t know 100% what happen. I am sure that both families and friends of the families are feeling pain, hurt, loss, and have many unanswered questions. And with respect for both families two wrongs don’t make a right. The lord said we should not judge each other. For that is his job. I pray that the lord will watch over both families and we all need to pray for everyone that this has hurt.

  1. Teresa said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 11:42 pm

I lost a friend due to a murder many years ago, he was shot and left on HWY 77 nobody knows why, or who did it and they most likely never will. The family of Casey will find out what happen to him, and why, and they already know who did it. The family of my friend my never know. Comfort for me comes from knowing that one day the person that caused my friend to leave here will have to stand in jugdement in front of the greatest judge of all our lord.

  1. Jay said,

 

on March 14th, 2007 at 11:46 pm

My name is Jay, Casey B. was my friend, my co-worker, my brother. As for the jack-ass who took Casey from us, I had no idea who he was before all this. And it doesn’t matter. He is faceless to those who love Casey and who are affected by the loss of his mischievous mug. Yeah that guy is human, but I doubt very sincerely that he was a fraction of the human paradox as our friend Casey was, and still is in our hearts. Granted, whatever “what’shisface” could do in the way of decent behavior toward Sean, Howard, Diane, and the myriads who love Casey,…it doesn’t change the most important factor that started this whole chain of response. However, what the fuck?!?! Remorse is something you can’t fake, and we haven’t even had a chance to see him try. This isn’t about the fucking media attention, this isn’t about saving face. This is about tragedy that happens and the people it affects. It must be nice to hide from the real world, I’m sure we’d all like to do it, alot.
Mr. Drunk Driver who killed my friend, fuck you. You are a coward. If the rumor that was relentlessly pushed upon me today is true you are an even weaker coward. But I hope it’s not true. You have a chance to start making it,…..not right, but easier to deal with the fact that you exist. You will punished for your mistakes, it doesn’t matter who makes the judgment. To the family of the guy who killed my friend: I’m sorry you have to go through this too. But not as sorry as I am for Casey’s family and friends. There is so much more I wanna say, but my angry ravings do not match the intensity of the loss we all feel. And when I say “we”, you know who I mean. So “we” have to do justice to Casey the only ways we have left. Pay your respects, whoever you are.
Casey, I’ll see you tomorrow, and everyday after that.
I love you and I miss you.

Jay

  1. donna said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 12:00 am

Tolly Carr killed a man bottom line, due to his stupidity and selfishness. i am sure he could have well afforded a taxi home. How many times did he report these incidences in the news? He is a grown man who should know better, i would guess if this was the average person that did this he would not have gotten to sign a paper and go home to hide. Sure Casey’s family will know who and why but its a small comfort when he was doing nothing wrong and his life was taken because some hot shot reporter was above calling a cab.

  1. Teresa said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 12:07 am

I agree that it is a small comfort. But alot of families would love to have that comfort. I know my friends family would. My friend wasn’t doing anything wrong when he was murder. He was only doing his job.

  1. valerie said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 12:24 am

As a friend of Casey, i will say that i am very angry with tolly carr. the fact that Tolly Carr has not made so much as a gesture of apology to Casey’s friends and family since this
happened. the fact that he is a public figure makes it even more important for him to claim responsibility for his mistakes and gross lack of judgment that resulted in the death a human being that was cared for by so many. The lack of any response shows a great disrespect to those people who are hurting due to Casey’s loss. I am aware that wxii has issued
a statement of apology and regret which is fine, but wxii did not kill Casey Bokhoven, Tolly Carr did. many of the people supporting tolly carr seem to take the…..”Many of us have committed similar mistakes…I know I climbed behind the wheel after a few drinks” attitude. i will tell you this the fact that so many people do this highy inconciderate and irresponsiable act does not in any form.. looked at from any angle make it less wrong, it just means that there are a lot of idiots in this world who think they are invinciable! someone willing to gamble not only their lives but the lives of others deserves the punishments they receive as the conciquence of their selfishness. casey is the party in this gastly situation who deserves peoples sympathy he IS the only innocent in this equation…he does NOT get a second chance…and casey is NEVER coming back from this. tolly carr should NOT pass go…should NOT collect 200 dollars…he should go straight to JAIL. he better have to pay for his mistakes, because my friend already had too!!

casey you will be missed! you always made me laugh even when i did not want to….
to anyone who is feeling his loss my heart is with you.

  1. Jacqui Causey said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 1:17 am

I didn’t know Casey, but I do know a number of the people hugely impacted by his death, including his brother and sister-in-law, and his two young nieces. And some years ago I lost a friend who died similarly. To those of you who believe that Tolly Carr deserves a second chance, I would like to remind you that he had a chance when he was cut off at the first bar. He had a 2nd chance when he was refused at the second bar. He had a third chance at the barricade where the street was closed. And you know what, he has another chance tomorrow and the morning after that. Where were Casey’s nieces’ chances to say goodbye to their Uncle? Or a father’s chance to say goodbye to his son? Remember this: Casey is gone, but the ENTIRE arts and music communities in this town are grieving his loss. Be careful what you say out loud, folks. I doubt you’d be so forgiving it were your family.

  1. Forrest Simmons said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 1:22 am

I feel the need to compose a few thoughts here. I knew Casey. Not extremely well, but I knew him. I know that emotions are running high at the moment, and that is entirely understandable. This is as sad of an occurance as I could imagine, and it is hard to say anything right now that doesn’t sound trite, but here is the best I can do: if we are to take anything away from this, it is that our time on this planet is limited and we could do no greater service to the human race than to hold the ones we love as close as possible. I could spew invective all night long about about how a certain newscaster is a murderer, but does that do Casey, or the human race, any justice? I fully understand the desire for vengeance on the part of Casey’s loved ones. Truly, no words will adequately console anyone; I know this. But I submit that we can do no better to honor this young man than to try our fucking hardest to be good to one another, to try to offer forgiveness where forgiveness is not asked, to remember to tell our friends and family that they are loved every chance we get. Again, I know this might sound trivial to Casey’s friends and family. If you feel confusion, rage, or whatever, you are totally warranted. I offer my love and sympathy to you, to my grieving friend David, and to anyone affected by this horror. I truly wish I could make your lives as they were. Bless you all.

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 1:42 am

To Teresa:

Do not sit here & compare this to your situation. While I’m sorry about your tragedy this is different & this is NOT about you or you past tragedy. This is about my brother being killed on the sidewalk. Do NOT tell me to wait for the facts. Do NOT tell me since I wasn’t there I don’t know. Do you know what I know?

I know that Tolly was driving. I know Tolly was drunk. I know my brother’s brains are still on the front door of the building that Tolly smashed him into.

Another thing I know is that you don’t know jack shit about this accident. Have you talked to the police that were there? Have you talked to witnesses that were there & saw these things?

If you don’t agree with the facts then please keep your fuckn mouth shut.

End of the goddman story.

-Sean

  1. Ben Browder said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 6:24 am

This shouldnt even be an arguement, or question on who deserves sorrow and support. An amazing man is dead now due to rediculous reasons and irresponsibility. Family and Friends are hurt. Send your sympathy to those who need it. Hope you and Kimmie and the little ones are holding up ok Sean. See you tonight…

  1. Leslie S said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 6:49 am

To Sean, Kim, Alex, friends, and family,
I am so sorry for your loss. And I’m sorry that I can’t be at the funeral to pay my respects. Please know that my heart aches for you and you are all in my thoughts.
Rest in Peace, Casey.
Much Love
-Leslie

  1. Courtney Pope said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 7:10 am

Before any of this happened I wasn’t aware of who Tolly Carr was. Now that I do know who he is……. not only have a seen him out at bars on numurous occasions having drinks and there-after getting in his truck or van and driving home. The difference between me and him is…… I got a fucking cab!!!!! All this second chance bullshit sucks…… He’s gotten his second chance more than enough times but he still continued to abuse it by getting in the car after drinking and guess what…..?????? It finally caught up with him. Unfortunatly his stupidity took my friend and we won’t ever get him back. SO FUCK YOUR SECOND CHANCE BULLSHIT!!!!!!

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 7:29 am

[…] The big local story this week is about Tolley Carr, a local anchor who was arrested on DWI charges after hitting and killing a pedestrian. Just about everyone I have talked to locally has been talking about this and everyone has an opinion. I met Tolley back in 99 when Janeen and I were guests on his WSSU radio show. So far I haven’t weighed in with an opinion except to say that I can’t imagine what that would be like, identifying with him, and not the victim, Casey Bokhoven, since I knew Tolley. The question of celebrity favoritism as he was released by the magistrate and there are a lot of passionate opinions that have been posted here. […]

  1. Teresa said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 7:32 am

Dear Sean,
I am sorry for you and your family, This is indeed a tragedy. And I wasn’t trying to compare my story to yours, and I am truly sorry if I upset you that wasn’t my intent. I am praying for your family. I was just trying to say that no matter what happens in the days or months to come. Your family can rest assured in the fact that the greatest Judge of them all our Lord will see that this man will be held accountable for what he did. And I know that you and your Family can’t understand why this happen to your brother knowone can, but if you just trust in the Lord he will stand by your family and with his love all thing will be right again when you, your family and your brother are together again in heaven. Again I am very sorry for loss. My prayers are with you all.

  1. Kerry Flynn said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 7:37 am

This is ridiculous. No, Tolly didn’t set OUT to kill Casey or anyone else that night, but technically, when you get behind the wheel of a car THAT DRUNK, you know what you are risking. You have known since before you were old enough to drink, shit I think I learned that in like 4th or 5th grade. Accidents happen when people are SOBER, by adding alcohol or drugs to the situation you only up your chances.
Tolly is a 32 year old grown man and KNEW he was taking those chances, and he ended up taking a life.
My question for people is, if this was “Joe Blow” (instead of Tolly Carr), as Sean put it before, would you all side with him like this?
NO. THAT WOULD BE GOING AGAINST COMMON HUMAN MORALITY, WOULDN’T IT? I MEAN, THERE’S ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE FOR IT (AKA MOTHERS AGAINST DRUNK DRIVING). HE BROKE A COMMON LAW. BREAKING THE LAW IS NEVER RIGHT. AND IN THIS INSTANCE, HE TOOK A LIFE. SINCE WHEN IS TAKING A LIFE RIGHT?

COME ON, GET REAL PEOPLE. NO ONE EVER TAUGHT ME THAT WAS RIGHT. I DON’T KNOW HOW THE HELL YOU WERE RAISED OR WHERE YOU WENT TO SCHOOL IF YOU THINK IT’S OK.

FUCK TOLLY CARR. THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL HE DESERVES A SECOND CHANCE!

WHAT ABOUT THE 1ST CHANCE AT LIFE (GOING TO SCHOOL AND STARTING A BIG CAREER, HAVING A FAMILY OF HIS OWN, ETC ETC) THAT CASEY BOKHOVEN NEVER EVEN GOT.

MEANWHILE, YOU WORRY ABOUT HOW “POOR” TOLLY WILL END UP AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE? IT’S ALREADY SAID AND DONE FOR AN INNOCENT MAN.
HOW MUCH MORE INCOMPASSIONATE CAN YOU BE AS A MERE HUMAN BEING? THIS IS A PUBLIC BLOG AND I’M SURE YOU’RE WELL AWARE THAT CASEY’S FAMILY AND FRIENDS HAVE ACCESS TO IT AND SINCE THEY ARE SO CLOSE TO THE SITUATION WOULD PROBABLY READ THIS AND YOU ARE TELLING THEM YOU ARE STANDING BEHIND TOLLY?

——————————————————————————————————————-
To Sean, Kim, Alex, and other friends and family of Casey: I never even got the pleasure of meeting Casey, but I have an idea of how much he was loved, and I am so sorry for your loss. You remain in my prayers and thoughts.

CASEY is the man who needs to be remembered now. Rest in Peace.

  1. Leigh said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 7:55 am

For all of you that feel sorry for Tolly Carr and say he deserves a second chance - maybe you should all feel what it’s like to sit down beside Casey’s father, a quiet man, hold his hand and watch his painful tears fall as he weeps and weeps and weeps over his son. Your heart will break and there will be no more room for Tolly Carr’s sympathy.

Don’t pray for Tolly Carr. Pray about him. I would hate to know that my name would be so disgracefully brought before our creator’s name.

  1. JOHN HAMMOND said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 8:15 am

For the next two days, as we have all week, we need to celebrate and honor Casey Bokhoven. I have a strong feeling if this happened to someone else, and Casey was actually put into the situation that all of us are sitting in now, he would be fighting for that person. He would make sure no one forgot the horror of this situation but at the same time, He would be honoring his fallen brother and friend. I only knew him for a fraction of time, but I know that Casey loved all of us. The kid had such a HUGE heart, and he always seemed that he wanted to do right by all of us. I know we have all posted rage and anger the past evening on this bulletin board, and we have every right too. Right now, let’s forget Tolly Carr for the moment as he sits and waits judgement. We are wasting the time we have to celebrate Casey, tell the funny stories, share with each other the times we had with him, embrace Casey’s large family and thank them for giving us such a beautiful person. Let’s focus our anger until after Friday night, when we say our last goodbye to our friend(I cannot believe I have to do this). For Saturday brings us to Casey’s legacy. That will be when OUR job turns into making sure TOLLY CARR is prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and despite what celebrity this man has had prior to this, it is disgraced. My friends please we need to do this for Casey, lets just disregard what ignorant comments we will have to endure and focus on talking about our fallen brother.

I’m sure Casey is somewhere grinning that goofy grin of his at all this mess.

  1. Katie Casad said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 8:17 am

Okay. This is realy really making me sick. Tolly supporters? Give me a break. “Tolly is the only real victim here.” WTF is wrong with you people who truly believe that??? The real victim here is Casey Bokhoven. HE is GONE forever. Life ended by TOLLY’S choice to drive drunk like an IDIOT!!!! The REAL victims here are the family and friends that Casey left behind. I do not believe that people are actually writing this stuff about “poor pitiful” Tolly Carr. SCREW HIM. His decision KILLED another person. A YOUNG man that was loved by many.

I do not care what happens to TOLLY CARR, but I promise you that wherever he ends up, there I will not be. If he’s back on TV somewhere, I will boycott the station. I am SICK of this sympathy for Tolly Carr bull. I DO feel sorry for his family because HE has caused them to grieve as well, knowing that someone in their bloodline MURDERED an0ther human being. But there isn’t much room for feeling sorry for anyone, since my heart is full of love and support for Casey’s family. THEY are the ones that should be thought of. CASEY is the one that needs to be remembered. I don’t care to EVER see Tolly Carr’s face unless it’s behind bars somewhere serving HARD time for killing someone the way he did.

What Tolly Carr did was NO different than shooting a gun into a public place. He got behind the wheel of his truck knowing he was WASTED. He killed Casey the same way someone shooting into a crowded street kills someone. EVERY time you get behind the wheel drunk, you are playing a dangerous game that could result in loss of lives. This was also not the ONLY time he has drove drunk, so I have learned.

Anyway, I have wasted enough time talking about a no-one like Tolly Carr. He is a disgrace to the human race and HIS ACTIONS TOOK CASEY’S LIFE!

Sean, Kim, Alex, and other friends and family of Casey: I, too, never had the opportunity to meet Casey, but his life and his tragic death has affected me deeper than I can ever explain. There are no words to describe the deep respect I have for you guys. Alex, you know I love ya to pieces, and anyone close to you had to have been a fantastic person. You guys are all in my thoughts and prayers, and I have major respect for the way you all are handling this situation. I pray that Casey’s MURDERER has to pay for what he has done. And if something bad happens to him, it will be sad for his family. I will not feel sorry for HIM. I will have no more room to feel sorry for his family either, because my WHOLE heart is with you guys.

Much love and prayers,
~katie

  1. Rob said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 8:43 am

This is a terribly sad situation and my heart goes out to all involved or affected by this tragedy. Tolly Carr will pay the price for his actions. This reminds me very much of the Janet Danahey situation in Greensboro five years ago. Unlike Danahey, Carr will probably play his defense better (like actually have one) and probably get a sentence that is not nearly our expecations regarding a crime that has caused the death of an innocent man.

I am intrigued by the number of individuals on here calling Tolly a murderer, as murder is defined as…

Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder).

This being said, should we have stricter DWI laws in this country? If Tolly is actually a murderer, should we not charge all DWI offenders with attempted murder? Afterall, while driving impaired, isn’t a car just a 4000 lb. weapon weilded by the moron behind the wheel.

I propose that all DWI offenders face at the very mimimum, an attempted murder charge, as they have shown a complete disregard and malice toward the safety of their fellow man. Any thoughts?

  1. Marshall Brown said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 8:44 am

The accident itself is horrible and a tradgedy, but what bothers me the most is that Tolly was allowed to leave the jail and STILL didn’t come out in public and say how sorry he was for his actions. It seems to me he could have used that time to come up with something! The longer this goes on with no word out of him the worse he looks. He did have a choice, and he chose to drink and drive. He must pay for what he has done and if he is as great a person as a lot of people seem to think, he will soon apoligize for what he has done…

  1. Holly Ritch said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 9:36 am

Please all of you Tolly supporters show some respect for this greiving family and keep your opinions to yourself! I can’t imagine how Sean must feel reading all of this crap. Let his family have this time to say good bye to Casy and honor his life without feeling like they have to defend him. Hang in there Sean, I know how bad this hurts! We love you…..Nat & Holly

  1. Teresa said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 9:37 am

We all would like to here from Tolly about how he feels, but we all should know that we live in a world were we are told what to do and not to do. If you think about it. If Tolly has a soul then he most likely would want to apoligize for what he did. But we should all know that his lawyer is most likely telling him not to speak to anyone about this at this time. Tolly did wrong there is no question to that. But as far as not making a public apoligize the fault in that should most likley be placed on his lawyer.

  1. Teresa G. said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 9:45 am

I never had the pleasure of meeting Casey, however I have dear friends who are devasted by this unspeakable tragedy and I can feel their pain half way across the United States. Their lives will NEVER be the same. My thoughts are with you all.

As for Tolly Carr, his life TOO should never be the same. He deserves to rot in a 2×5 prison cell. It is the only way he could even begin to know even a fraction of what these people who loved the one he took are going through.

My heart goes out to all the friends and family of Casey. I am deeply sorry for your loss.

  1. Holly Ritch said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 9:47 am

OK I can’t take this Teresa girl anymore! Can you please stop with you opinions!! You have no clue!!!

  1. Jokey Smurf said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 9:48 am

All I got to say is, it’s a shame that the rumors about Tolly are not true. He deserves exactly what he dished out, DEATH!!!!!!!

  1. Jay said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 9:49 am

Another rumor has is that Casey Bokhoven was already dead when Tolly Carr hit him with his truck. Just a rumor, not trying to disrespect anyone, just wanted to know if anyone could shed light or any truth on this.

  1. Rob said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 9:53 am

I’m waiting for an acceptable answer to my question. Should all DWI offenders be charged with attempted murder? Or are all of you just too happy drinking and driving to agree with me?

  1. Jay said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:00 am

Stop listening to rumors people. Stop this thread. It’s pointless.Pay your respects to Casey and his family tonight.

The real Jay

  1. not given said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:00 am

i think the only reason no one has answered your question is it is a smart ass question. (and seems to be in favor of tolly anyhow in my opinion)
there’s your answer.

  1. Jay said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:02 am

How does it favor Tolly to be charged with attempted murder?

  1. Enough is Enough said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:05 am

Can we please stop this pissing match. I’m sick of it. This is ridiculous. Enough is enough. Casey should be remembered. End of story. Tolly Carr will get what he deserves, if not in this life, then in another. This bickering will do no good.

  1. Enough is Enough said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:09 am

“Jay said, Another rumor has is that Casey Bokhoven was already dead when Tolly Carr hit him with his truck. Just a rumor, not trying to disrespect anyone, just wanted to know if anyone could shed light or any truth on this. ”

This is bull. How could anyone even say something like that?? Get a life.

  1. Jay said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:10 am

Casey is remembered, my family and I have prayed for him and his family every nite since the tradgedy, which is all we can do. I was only asking about such rumors because I was unaware of any truth to them at the time, sheesh, it was just a question.

  1. not given said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:11 am

by saying favors tolly i meant that his question seems to be a smart ass question is all i meant. it sounds like he is defending it…..by asking everyone who’s ever driven after drinking to ask themselves if they should have been caught and charged with attempted murder.

although i myself have NEVER gotten behind the wheel when i shouldn’t.

let’s stop the bickering about tolly.
pay respects to casey.
he should be the person on all of our minds today, especially with the family and close friends readying themselves for the wake tonight and the funeral and final goodbyes tomorrow.

  1. Jay said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:11 am

Get i life? I do have a life, I am very interested in the events that have taken place, and do hope justice is served in every meaning of the word.

  1. Brenda said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:20 am

Hopefully all will be well in due time.

  1. Reverend Jeff Davis said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:31 am

Can we all come together and put this in the Lord’s hands. There will be some type of Miracle that will come out of all this pain and hurt. We should try to create a memorial for Casey over in Winston-Salem and also establish a candlelight vigil each year on the night of his death to honor his life. To borrow an old line from a Brian Piccolo movie let’s strive to remember not how Casey died, but how he LIVED. I did not know him but from what I am reading here I will remember him as a brother. I respect the way all of you in the Triad are speaking out and I have changed my opinion somewhat about Tolly Carr. I don’t hate that young man but I do think he continued to make bad decisions and that he was given many second chances. Why did Tolly continue to use bad judgement? Only the Good Lord above us knows, but I can’t help but feel that Sean and Casey’s family needs us so much in this time of grief. As a group of brothers and sisters let’s support the Bokhoven family and I believe in my heart that Tolly Carr will see his maker and will greet his taker when he ends up in court and then goes on to spend his time in Prison. I again do not want to sound corny or disrespectful but this is all in the Good Lord’s hands now and justice will be served. No matter what God you serve or worship, PLEASE remember Casey’s family in your prayers and let Sean, Casey’s brother, know how much you love him in his time of need. You all have a RIGHT to be venting here considering all that has happened in the past few day. God Bless, Reverend Jeffrey Davis.

  1. T said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:32 am

My heart aches for the family and friends of Casey. I have lost someone close to me from the irresponsiblity of a drunk driver. It is painful.
I also hurt for the family of the driver and him.
I pray for both families and Mr. Carr. That is what Christians do. I do understand the anger.
I believe that he needs to be punished by the law, and he will have to live with his choice to drive while drunk. However, I do not believe he set out to “murder” someone that night. He was like MOST people who do not take drinking and driving seriously, it could happen to anyone. We could be killed by someone or someone we know could kill someone while drinking and driving. He was irresponsible and now a innocent life is gone forever and his life is destroyed and all that love both of these men are experiencing pain and loss and a gut wrenching hurt.
If anything positive can come out of these posts, let it be more awareness of how STUPID IT IS TO DRINK AND DRIVE!

  1. Sara said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:34 am

An earlier post from someone read “Many of us have committed similar mistakes…I know when I was younger, I climbed behind the wheel after a few drinks. It’s certainly nothing I’m proud of…”

My response to that is- yes, we have all driven when perhaps it would have been smarter to take a cab… BUT, I have NEVER consumed enough alcohol to drive though a CLOSED ROAD, Run over an innocent pedestrian, NOT KNOW THAT I JUST HIT SOMEONE, then continue driving up the sidewalk before hitting a building. This tragic event will make me more careful about always taking a cab, but to say that ‘we’ve all made this mistake before’ is just horse shit.

Tolly didn’t just ‘have a couple beers over the limit,’ he was completely hammered and out of touch with reality. If anyone can sympathize with that type of drinking and driving- then you need to get help.

I cannot begin to imagine the pain his friends and family are going through. We need to remember the life that was taken too soon, the friends and family that will never get to grow old with Casey. Our thoughts should be centered around them.

Like many of you- I WILL stand up and say FUCK TOLLY CARR may he experience many years behind bars to slowly make him pay for his actions. His lack of remorse is sickening.

And I will end by echoing what Katie Casad posted in her message-
I did not have the pleasure of knowing Casey, but any friend of Alex’s would have been a friend of mine.

My thoughts and prayers are with you all.

  1. kerry flynn said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:39 am

^^ that was wonderfully put, Sara. Ditto.

  1. Crystal said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:50 am

The only reason I would ever feel sorry for Tolly Carr is for the sole fact that he has to live with the bare fact that his poor decision had cost an innocent person’s life, a person who will be missed as much as he was loved by friends and family. Casey was such a loved being, and it was very unfortunate to have something so tragic and unnecessary to happen. Let this be a reminder that we need to all take into account all the consequences from our decisions. As for Carr’s punishment, I hope he gets prosecuted to the full extent- I know it will not bring Casey back to his friends and family, but at least it may help ease some pain and suffering. Carr’s lack of apology does not put him in a good position at this point, and the least he could do at this moment is to show his remorse to Casey’s family and show that at least cares. Aside from that, we all have to wait and see what kind of decision arises from this case, and hope that the best decision will be made. In the meantime, my heart and sympathy goes out to everyone who is suffering from Casey’s death. -cjd

  1. ace said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:54 am

I am a little confused by all the talk surrounding the Tolly Carr incident. Why is there so much chaos and misjudgement? The facts are clear. He was drunk, driving his vehicle way too fast down a closed section of W/S. He went off the main street, hit and killed a pedestrian, then tried to flee the scene. He refused a breath test and spent the night in jail. It sounds to me like he knwe what he was doing. He partied hard and crashed even harder. He does not deserve any breaks or a lighter sentence. He knew the law and he chose to ignore it, so he should pay the price. We all would too.

  1. Rob said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:58 am

My question was loaded and also forged a common ground between the some of Tolly’s critics, as well as his supporters. Many have made the poor choice of getting behind a wheel while under the influence. I have made the decision, you may have, Tolly Carr made that decision the other night and Casey Bokhoven had previously made the decision too.

Calling Tolly Carr a murderer is no truer than calling Casey Bokhoven an attempted murderer. For all of you saying F-Tolly Carr, go ahead and place a DWI offenders name behind that same expletive. They have had the same disregard for human life that Carr exhibited a few nights ago.

I have no dog in this fight and truly wish that healing can begin for all parties in this horrific tragedy. Please go and pay your respects to Casey Bokhoven and his family. If you are Tolly’s friends, please support him in what will be a terribly dark and trying period as he faces prison time. Regardless, if you’re so close to the situation that you are doing either of these two things, quit reading this message board as it will only enhance the pain you are going through. My $ 0.02.

  1. jodi said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 11:28 am

tolly deserves no second chance…the horrible choice and mistake he made can not be forgotten or forgiven. a precious life was lost, THAT can never be regained. casey gets no second chance. so, why should tolly have the chance to regain his life. he KNEW what he was doing by drunk driving and going down a closed street. tolly needs to be punished for what he has done. to the max. there needs to be an example made out of him, so maybe the next time people go out for drinks they hopefully will think twice about getting behind the wheel. take a damn taxi. a life was lost, one that will be missed forever by everyone that ever knew him and many that never knew him. casey blessed many lives. tolly carr needs to pay for what he did! i have heard from MANY people around winston salem that they would see tolly out at the bars at night drinking and he wouldn’t hesitate to get in his car and drive home, no matter how many drinks he had. why does that deserve any second chance at life…..it shouldn’t.

  1. Donald said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 12:04 pm

If Tolly is reading all the comments over here he is bound to be feeling sick right now. Let’s show the brother some LOVE and get away from the hate-mongoring. TC screwed up but he is still a human being. Do you want to be the one to take him out in the street and kill him? How ’bout it brother?

  1. Katie Casad said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 12:10 pm

“Calling Tolly Carr a murderer is no truer than calling Casey Bokhoven an attempted murderer. For all of you saying F-Tolly Carr, go ahead and place a DWI offenders name behind that same expletive. They have had the same disregard for human life that Carr exhibited a few nights ago.”

WHAT??? Why would anyone call Casey an attempted murderer? HE WAS STANDING ON A SIDEWALK! HE was NOT driving…was NOT DRUNK DRIVING LIKE TOLLY WAS. Are you kidding me? What are the merits for a comment such as that? HOW do you say that Casey was an attempted murderer for standing on the sidewalk and being plowed over by a drunk idiot????????????

  1. Katie Casad said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 12:11 pm

“If Tolly is reading all the comments over here he is bound to be feeling sick right now. Let’s show the brother some LOVE and get away from the hate-mongoring. TC screwed up but he is still a human being. Do you want to be the one to take him out in the street and kill him? How ’bout it brother? ”

AND for this guy….I do NOT GIVE A SHIT what TOLLY CARR is doing right now. HE HAS EYES AND CAN READ. HE HAS A LIFE and Casey doesn’t. end of story. That was truly disrespectful.

  1. Rob said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 12:17 pm

He was a DWI offender and like many others, including Tolly, have disregarded human life.

http://webapps6.doc.state.nc.us/apps/offender/offend1?DOCNUM=0850726&SENTENCEINFO=yes&SHOWPHOTO=no&numtimesin=1

  1. Rob said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 12:30 pm

He was a DWI offender and like many others, including Tolly, have disregarded human life.

  1. Emily said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 1:00 pm

It is unreal how anyone would think that Tolly should be given a second chance. Just because he was on the news, a friendly face or someone you would never expect to do something like this, but he did.

You think, why couldnt Casey been a couple seconds later walking down the street. Why couldnt Tolly have taken another road, but the sad thing may have been that he would have killed someone else in a wreck on a different road. This could have happend to anyone that got into their car and drove drunk…they should all be treated the same and my personal opinion is that Tolly should have stayed in jail until his court date, at least.

I did not know Casey but I did know some of his friends. He seemed like a wonderful guy with many friends that loved him dearly. I hate that Casey’s family and friends has to read all the posts with people supporting Tolly and his “bad decision”. I am sorry you must go though this. Stay stong.

  1. Teresa said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 1:09 pm

I agree with Reverend Jeff Davis. And maybe you can’t take my post anymore And again sorry if I upset anyone. It is all in Gods wonderful hands. And there is nothing that any of us can do except to pray for all the Famlies and Friends of both these men.

  1. md said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 1:09 pm

To the Bokhoven family. i was there. i know what happened and i have been more than happy to share any of this information with the authorities. Tolly deserves no sympathy. whether feeling bad or not, he killed an innocent person. casey never got the chance to grow up and be what all he wanted and deserved to be. it was ripped from him all because you dont have the common sense to get in a cab, one which we all witnessed you talking to me. the price of the cab ride home was just too much to pay so you let casey and his family and friends pay instead. bs, and you know it. we all have a responsibilty to honor the one lost and not fear for the one who chose to take him away. it was a tragedy and as you think that tolly is going to be paying as court proceedings progress, know that it is just as long that caseys family has to sit and wait for justice for their loved one. we all deserve love and respect, but we are not all owed a second chance. we all saw you, we all know what you did. winston is a small town and the stories will all come together, i know i have done my part as have my friends. enjoy this beautiful day and know that casey can no longer. when any of you are put in a remotely similar situation and it is your brother/mom/dad/sister, i am rest assured that you would not be so forgiving. to the family and friends, i saw all of you last night and it is heart breaking for me to see and know what lies ahead of you. i have been there and i pray for peace in your heads at some point and the candle lit vigil was beautiful. we took our flowers today. may God be with you and may people pay for their actions, mistake or not. you all are the victims and i will fight tooth to nail to make sure every detail of that night comes out. Rest in peace casey, it was a pleasure that our paths were able to cross in this life and we have been very blessed to know you the time that we did. Wednesday night will miss you. hopefully many lessons will be learned of this, it would be a shame if they werent.

  1. Rob said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 1:16 pm

All who have committed DWI are just as guilty as Tolly for showing disregard to human life.

http://webapps6.doc.state.nc.us/apps/offender/offend1?DOCNUM=0850726&SENTENCEINFO=yes&SHOWPHOTO=no&numtimesin=1

  1. Rob said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 1:19 pm

All who have committed DWI are just as guilty as Tolly Carr of showing disregard for human life.

http://webapps6.doc.state.nc.us/apps/offender/offend1?DOCNUM=0850726&SENTENCEINFO=yes&SHOWPHOTO=no&numtimesin=1

  1. Rob is a bastard said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 1:39 pm

That was totally uncalled for. Casey is dead. Don’t you have any sympathy for that. YOU, ROB, are an ASSHOLE. And a BASTARD.

  1. Bruce said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 1:47 pm

Very interesting Rob. I wonder if that’s why Casey was on foot to begin with?

  1. Chris said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 1:52 pm

Rob,

I’ve heard of low class, but that was NO class. A lot of what happened here is in terms of degrees as well. You seem to have missed that. Tolly Carr was EXCEPTIONALLY drunk. He was beyond drunk and offered help by numerous people on Burke St. He refused. Look at this way. What if the SAME events had resulted but instead of using a truck, Tolly had picked up a handgun and shot it. Would you be screaming “Oh but he was DRUNK! Casey fired a gun before when he was drunk!” Nope.

Have some class man. That was just wrong.

  1. kerry said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 2:07 pm

Rob,
You posting that was disrespect for human life, death, grieving, Casey, his family, his friends………………………among other things.
That was the most disrespectful comment I have seen on here.
There’s a time and a place for most thigns buddy, THIS is not the time nor the place.

I hope you feel like absolute shit knowing that Casey’s brother and friends may very well read this and read what you posted. You SELFISH bastard

  1. we all do wrong said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 2:14 pm

as posted before we all do wrong and make bad decision, so everyone needs to put their self in both of the mens shoes and their families shoes.

  1. . said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 2:19 pm

he who has not sinned may cast the first stone, right? so if it’s gonna be like that ROB, why not reveal yourself so we can all take the fuckin time to look YOU up on NC probation and parole site.
how much fuckin time do you have on your hands, sick-o.

what the fuck is wrong with you?

  1. Rob is a bastard said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 2:24 pm

I wish I knew your whole name so i could hunt you down and slap your stupid face, Rob. You are a jerk that KNOWS NOTHING about this situation. I don’t know how you can sleep at night after saying something so rude. F’ you man.

  1. we all do wrong said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 2:27 pm

I understand that must be hard on Casey Friends and family to see that put on this post after all that has been said or posted on here. he who has not sinned cast the first stone is right. and I think that is what alot of these post have been about none of us are with sin nomatter who you are

  1. William said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 2:29 pm

I like Teresa agree with the Reverend Davis. It is time to stop all this name calling and mud-slinging and let the wounds heal. Casey was a fine young man based on everything that I have been reading. We have too many people coming on the board with a hidden agenda and we should all give it a rest. Delving into a dead man’s past to try and get a sensationalized reaction is not right. I once worked with DWI offenders and they all are in need of improvement. If you have been drinking and driving then you are DWI, it just becomes a point that you did not get caught. I am a retired State Trooper and all of you are guilty of sort of traffic violations but you got by and we did not catch you. What I am trying to say here is that nobody is perfect and God rest Casey’s soul. Can anyone here tell me exactly where this took place in Winston-Salem. I would like to visit that site and leave some flowers and I would encourage all of you to do the same. We need more of you that are checking in to go back and read what the Reverend Jeff Davis had to say, he is on money and if any of you want to test me I may be a retired State Trooper but I can still take care of business. God Bless the Casey Bokhoven family.

  1. Rob said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 2:32 pm

Back to my original question though, should we not charge all DWI offenders with attempted murder? Or should we just charge Tolly with murder as many stated above?

  1. md said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 2:36 pm

casey was struck on first street right before hawthorne road. it is not hard to find as those who love him have all left flowers and trinkets there in his honor. i believe anyone on here talking about the sitaution owes the respect to visit the site and just see what has happened and see how much he was loved. it is very sad and tragic. it is amazing how people come together, but what is more amazing is that people are figthing about the entire thing and its disrespectful. show some respect and look at the big picture. its not about who feels what about anything, it is about many lives being ruined on both ends. remember that.

  1. Andy said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 2:41 pm

I am one of the key leaders here at this web site and just want to THANK md for what you just said. THANK-YOU

  1. ..... said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 2:49 pm

Andy. I think it’s about time someone took down this whole thread. If sean and casey’s family have not seen it yet, seen what rob has posted about everything….questioning casey’s past (what a lousy thing to do..he’s not even here to defend himself).
can this not be done?
to spare casey’s brother and family from reading this?
THAT is where is switched from sharing opinions to being totally disrespectful and rude.
I am asking you this, PLEASE.

  1. Please said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 2:55 pm

I agree, please take this down before Sean or any of the other family members see this. It will break their hearts and ONLY ADD to the anger they are feeling right now. This is absurd. I have never seen such HEARTLESS cowards hiding behind their computers saying disrespectful things such as what “Rob’s” stupid f’n ass said. Rob, go play in traffic…do us all a favor, you jerk.

  1. Bruce said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 3:03 pm

What did Rob say? People were saying Carr should is a murder because he killedd someone while drunk. I think it’s very appropriate to ask the supporters of that view whether or not the victim was an attempted murderer when he drove under the influence.

Whether the victim was convicted of DWI is not a matter of opinion. It’s a fact.

  1. ..... said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 3:09 pm

and he is the victim. the deceased victim.
how disrespectful to ask that knowing that Sean and Casey’s other family will read this???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

REALLY. this whole thread needs to be taken down. it’s so full of disrespect for the dead. i bet rob and u others respect the dead u don’t even know of more than this….right..like you probably make sure not to step over top of graves and stuff if you’re in a graveyard??
show 1/2 the f’in respect here for the man who is dead..for the man’s family who will read this and quit questioning HIS past.
that’s all he has is his past. no present. no future.

leave him and his past alone.

  1. ..... said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 3:10 pm

i have never seen such bullying?? who bullies on someone who can’t even be here to defend themselves?
what f-in assholes!

  1. Ben Browder said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 3:15 pm

too late to take it down. this is rediculous.
i am at a loss of words.

if i knew who you were rob, i would run you over with a truck. what a fucking joke.

  1. Holly said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 3:23 pm

I agree…Andy please take this down so the family does not have to see what these heartless idiots Rob & Bruce have said….

  1. Seth B said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 3:23 pm

My girlfriend and I are about to get ready to go to the funeral home and witness friends and family grieving.

Last night, we who were with Sean watched him try to stop someone from driving drunk and they said “Oh, I’m alright man.” as they stumbled across the street.

When will this end? Not without a fight. And to you who call us a mob, yes we are a mob who wants JUSTICE. A mob who wants nothing more than for this to end BEFORE it happens to another family. We don’t lust for blood, we want what is right and fair for those who cannot speak for themselves and for those who do not know their future. That includes all of you sticking up for Tolly, you could just as easily be next, and your family will feel the hate. We want consequences.

In our anger we do not blame his family. But Tolly made the choices voluntarily that led to the events of that evening, so he voluntarily made the choice to accept the consequences for his actions.

WE THIS MOB CALL FOR JUSTICE.

  1. Maria said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 3:33 pm

I came across this thread while looking up to see if it was true that Tolly Carr had attempted suicide. I understand the pain of Casey’s family because I have had a loved one struck by a drunk driver. I know that right now Casey’s friends and family do not want to hear this, but hating will get you no where. I am sorry that anybody has to go through a situation such as this, but I am praying that it will make each of you stronger and closer to who matters most to you. As for Tolly, I feel horrible for him too because his actions led him to take a human life that day. I would not want to live with myself were I him.

In response to a post by Leigh in which she said,
“Don’t pray for Tolly Carr. Pray about him. I would hate to know that my name would be so disgracefully brought before our creator’s name.”

I am praying for Tolly Carr. I am sure that many people are. Our Creator loves everyone - we all sin, none of us are better than the other. He came for those rejected by society for things they had done, so He would reach out to Tolly in his time of need.

As for what Rob has brought to light, I find it interesting that Casey’s life ended by another person’s lack of judgement when he himself had driven under the influence. How do we know that Casey would not have hit a pedestrian later had he not been pulled over? We will never know, but to his family I say, how would you have felt for Casey had he been in Tolly’s shoes?

Before I get accused of being a Tolly supporter, I am praying for all those involved. I am sorry Casey left this world the way he did, and I am sorry that Tolly will have to live his life out knowing he is the one responsible. I am hopeful that this story reaches out to those who continue to drive under the influence and make them think of having a DD or calling a cab.

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 3:36 pm

This is Casey’s brother & I have been reading this. ( See my posts earlier up in the page).

Rob: I am in shock you would post that link. It was not a secret nor any attempt to hide that Casey had indeed gotten a DWI years ago. You want to charge him w/ attmepted murder b/c of that? You think this is exactly the same don’t you? Hey rob, wanna know a lil tiny difference in these 2 cases:

1) casey never hurt anyone that night.
2) Tolly killed someone when he drove drunk.

Is ever driving drunk excused? No. Have many of us done it one time ourselves? I’m sure most of us have. Casey unfortunately did several years ago & has paid for it ever since.

But for Rob to go & pull up dirt on my brother is the lowest thing I think I’ve ever seen. Casey was not perfect. We never said he was. You are diverting the point away from the original issue: Casey is dead b/c Tolly was a drunk bastard that was too cheap to pay a cab-fair. you have nothing else to say. that’s it. the end.

To the rational ones that don’t have thier heads in their asses: Thank you for the support & I look forward to seeeing you tonight as we pay our respects to Casey….a person that was so much better than some of the people on this page.

Love,

Sean

  1. Chris said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 3:40 pm

Sean,

I posted earlier… but, I am so sorry to intrude… but is tonight a private affair?

Thinking of you, your family and Casey,
Chris

  1. Rob said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 3:48 pm

It is unfortunate that we must use such controversial rhetoric to make people understand.

Hey, Fuck Tolly Carr too! Guess I’ve risen to your level now. Sad.

  1. Kyle said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 3:50 pm

First off, I am not, in any way, agreeing with Rob on anything. Let’s just go from Rob’s point of view and say okay, all people who have driven drunk are attempted murderers. But do all people, after hitting and killing someone, running off the road, going down a blocked off street…immediatly tell people to NOT CALL 911??? Hell no. That shows he has no remorse. He was worried about his own sorry ass, not Casey’s, Casey’s family, Casey’s girlfriend who witnessed it all. Hell, if he was refused drinks at bars, what was he doing behind the wheel?? Also, these high dollar lawyers he can afford, where was that damn money for a safe cab ride home??

He drove drunk, hit and killed an innocent man, he needs to own up to it. He is a grown ass man. If it were me, I would be so overwhelmed with grief and sorrow for my mistake. From reading this board, he has not even given an apology to Casey’s family. Please, explain that. Okay, let me take a stab at it. If he says sorry for what he did, he is admitting his guilt, and we all know his high dollar lawyers are advising him NOT TO DO THAT. Fuck that, he messed up, own up to it!!!!

Hopefully high dollar lawyers won’t make a difference and justice will be served. Casey’s family deserves at least that after having to bury him.

My prayers go out to Casey’s family and friends.

  1. ~~ said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 3:57 pm

I can’t believe you people. I CANNOT believe the disrespect. I am so ashamed to say I live in the same state as you heartless bastards. You with the attitudes and bashing someone who was killed…in front of his friends and family…I don’t see how you look at your pitiful pathetic selves in the mirror.

Sean, we will see you tonight…and you will see how many many people are there to support you and your family. This is ridiculous, but we all know these bastards will pay for their actions one day.

Please, try not to worry about these jerks..easy for me to say, when I am not even a family member, never even met Casey, but I am still outraged…so I know its easier said than done. I am so sorry you have to deal with these jerks on top of everything else. Hopefully someone will take this down and shut these idiots up before too long. Lots of folks have emailed the webmaster, so hopefully these IDIOTS will no longer have a thread to bash Casey on.

You people should be ashamed of yourselves. I would hate to be YOU when you try to lay down and sleep at night.

  1. ~~ said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 4:02 pm

“It is unfortunate that we must use such controversial rhetoric to make people understand.”

Make people understand what?? Understand that you are disrespectful and rude and there are really no words that describe your actions the way they should be described. Understand that you are a jerk? Yes, sir, we understand.

Now, I must leave work and prepare to go and pay my respects…I will NOT be visiting this site anymore…you are NOT worth my words.

  1. Alan Sin said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 4:59 pm

To all you fucking idiots who thinks that Tolley Carr deserves a 2nd chance. If it was your mother or you father, brother or sister, son or daughter, would you think that the asshole, who took my friend away from me, a son away from a mother and father and a brother away from a brother, would you think that he deserved a 2nd chance? Fuck no you wouldn’t! You all who thinks that this murderer deserves a second chance are ALL fucking idiots. You look at this one sided, just think that Casey Bokhoven was your brother and not someone you didn’t know, would you still be kissing Tolley Carr’s ass? You god damn idiots, all of you.

Alan

  1. kim said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 5:00 pm

Amazing…

Anyone know who the sponsor Cecil Carr is listed on this site? Why are you not directed to a site or anything when you click on it???

I have already contacted other sponsors with ads on this site and told them I’d pull my ad considering the B/S going on here. Good companies wouldn’t want their name associated in defending CARR!

I will continue……….

Off to the viewing

  1. Doug said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 5:14 pm

Cecil Carr is NOT related to Tolly Carr, in fact, they are not even the same race. Cecil Carr helped sponsor this blog in its early stages. He is in no way related to this story.

  1. sad for all said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 5:56 pm

I don’t understand you everyone says Tolly was “EXCEPTIONALLY drunk” in my book DRUNK IS DRUNK! What does it matter how drunk? My heart goes out to both families. If it was not Tolly that did this error in judgement and it was just an plain joe off the streets we would never hear anything about it. I have lost people in my family to murder and there are so miny stages the family will go through, family and friends need to pull together and help eachother through.
We really do not know how or what Tolly if feeling or going through right now, but I am sure he is having a hard time looking in the mirror and will have to live with it. I dont believe in Drunk Driving but I do understand we ALL have had poor judgement in our lives. Let the courts and God decied what will happen to Tolly. He will prob. give himself a live sentence!

Again my heart goes out to all

  1. ~~ said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 6:23 pm

I have contacted the sponsors of this site. Once they see the conduct over here, hopefully they will pull their ads. I am SERIOUS about this: anyone who will sit and allow this nonsense to go on…it’s beyond ridiculous.

I just got home from Casey’s wake. I am telling the ones who have made such a mockery of Casey’s life and his death with your STUPID unwarranted comments…if you had to see the hurt and the pain this family is experiencing, you would stop acting like idiots. You are further adding to their pain. You people are a disgrace.

  1. Katie said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 6:25 pm

I want to state for the record that the “Doug” in this thread is NOT my Doug.

  1. Bruce said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 6:33 pm

The “Doug” in this thread is the “Doug” who writes for this site. The opinions being posted here are those of the posters and not GreensboroSports.com. This is a SPORTS site. The reason this sad story was posted in the first place was due to the fact that Tolly Carr has been an area SPORTScaster in the past. Personally, I am sorry for the family and friends of this young man and hope you can find peace and closure at some point.

  1. Katie said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 6:39 pm

Thanks for clearing that up, Bruce. I really wanted to know. Actually, Doug’s first post was pretty nice..and I wasn’t saying anything about it. I just wanted those reading to know that it wasn’t my doug, that’s all. I see that this is a sports site. So why even let this CRAP go on any longer?? If it’s truly a sports site, why not take this crap down instead of continuing to let it go… I mean for God’s sake…his brother and his best friends have already seen it and been subjected to the HORRIBLE disrespect by members of this site. It’s terrible that there are actually people in this world like that. But then again, there are terrible people all over the world…even drunk news reporters who get hammered and run over and kill people with no remorse or sympathy.

  1. Jason said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 6:41 pm

I was talking to one of the guys that runs this site and was telling them we should just make this thread a tribute to Casey Bokhoven the rest of the way and they agreed with me. Let’s continue on with the positive side and show respect to Casey and this will be in memory to him. Casey Bokhoven has already got more mentions in this discussion than he has anywhere else. I’m seeing and listening to the good things Casey was doing and what he stood for and it’s a good thing to have a chance to show him some respect. I don’t know of any place else that has given us this chance to express our thoughts and share together what we are feeling at this time. Thank-you greensborosports.com and I don’t know if that was your intention but I think it has been good for everyone to get the anger and frustration out of their system and we could do it here when no one else would listen. Let’s do it all in Casey’s honor the rest of the way. Jason

  1. Nameless said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 6:57 pm

Here are the facts.

1. It is unfortunate that Casey is dead due to a drunken driver
2. Tolly Carr made a big mistake that resulted in someone’s death
3. Tolly Carr did not plan on killing anyone
4. Casey didn’t plan on being killed
5. Even if it weren’t Tolly, the offender would need support - even if it were a pre-school teacher
6. People are angry and upset and not thinking rationally - just like Tolly.
7. To honor the death of a loved one, behave respectfully so that people will be able to honor and respect that lost loved one.
8. Did you read what Carolyn said above on the 14th? Her son was killed by someone who WAS NOT drunk three years ago. Yet, the offender made another tragic mistake. So, which is worse? Being killed by someone drunk or not drunk? The answer is both are just as bad. A death resulted. Should you be angry? Yes. Should you curse someone to hell? No.
9. The reason Tolly CANNOT approach you or your family at this time is because you are filled with anger. Even if he apologized, I’m sure you would still be cursing him to hell right now. Yes, I do feel strongly that you and your family deserve an apology. At the same time, Tolly deserves your forgiveness and mercy.

  1. ***** said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 7:01 pm

I thought we were making this a tribute to Casey from this point.

Tolly Carr deserves nothing.

  1. sad for all said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 7:12 pm

Katie,

Could you please tell me how you know Tolly has “no remorse or sympathy” None of us know how the other feels. We all know he can not make a statement right now. Again Tolly did wrong and will pay either in this life or in his after life.

  1. Katie said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 7:16 pm

He was so drunk he didn’t even know he had ran someone over. His passenger was HURT. All he wanted to do was keep his butt out of trouble. He was persistent in saying “Do not call the cops.” He even called someone from his cell phone and stammered “I’m in trouble.”

That says enough right there. AND the fact that he has declined to make any comment at all…even a NON-SELF INCRIMINATING ONE…like how about “I am sorry.” End of sentence. Come on! How many people do you know that would kill someone and not even say “I’m sorry for your loss.” His actions the night OF the accident and from that point forward prove to me (and a lot of other folks) that he has no sympathy.

  1. sad for all said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 7:26 pm

I am not on any side here, it is a sad situation all the way around. I have tried to put myself in Tollys shoes and I think If it were me I would of freked out to. Like I said above I have had family killed also and I know it would not make one dam bit of diff. to me if he would of said I’m sorry (at the time). TIME is the key word. I think Tolly should get jail time for what he has done but I also think in time and with the grace of God everyone will learn to forgive. I know right now family and friends are hurt, lost, confussed, and PISSED! In now way am I trying to say Tolly should walk, just know he is hurting, upset and I can only guess he is more scared then he has ever been. This is sad it had to happen, everything I have read sound like Casey was a great guy and was very loved and will be missed. Again my heart goes out to all.

  1. Jo said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 7:41 pm

—-”What would you be saying if Tolly Carr was your son?”—-

I would be saying the same damn thing, I hope you get the justice you deserve!!

  1. Ben Browder said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 7:46 pm

actions speak louder than words…

  1. Teresa said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 8:06 pm

I agree with nameless.

  1. ****** said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 8:09 pm

Oh gosh. Teresa again. If you have nothing to say, besides “I agree” why even post. I think it’s safe to say we are all sick of you, Teresa. Go away.

  1. Kyle said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 8:15 pm

9. The reason Tolly CANNOT approach you or your family at this time is because you are filled with anger. Even if he apologized, I’m sure you would still be cursing him to hell right now. Yes, I do feel strongly that you and your family deserve an apology. At the same time, Tolly deserves your forgiveness and mercy.

Nameless, the reason he is not apologizing is that his lawyers are advising him not too. An apology is admitting guilt. Sooo…he needs to man up and apologize. He fucked up, drove drunk, killed someone, pay the price!!!!!

If he is scared of the family, write a letter!! There is no excuse not to apologize…NONE!

God bless Casey’s family and friends.

  1. Teresa said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 8:15 pm

Sorry again, But would you please tell me what I have posted that is so bad. In my eyes telling people that I am praying for them, and god will take care of them all, is not bad, nor disrespectful. And I am sure other would agree.

  1. ****** said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 8:21 pm

I am sorry Teresa. It’s been a long long night and a long long couple of days. I’m just angry, pissed off, and hurt. Sick of people saying “I’m sure others have drove drunk before.” Who cares what others have done. And I was a little unnerved by the comment you posted about at least Casey’s family knows who did it and all that stuff. It sounded like you were belitting their situation like they shouldn’t hurt as much as someone who did not know who the killer was. I am sorry for being defensive. I’m just sick and tired of everyone feeling sorry for the person that took Casey out of his friends’ and family members’ lives.

God bless the Bokhovens. Love and respect to Casey.

  1. Teresa said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 8:27 pm

I completey understand that, And as for the comment I made about the family knowing what happened and whom done this. I wasn’t trying to belittle them or this in any way. I was just trying to give them a little comfort in the fact that they would be able to get some closure it this one day.

  1. Talia said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 8:46 pm

These posts should be in support of Casey’s family and friends! They need love and support! It is very inconsiderate for people to defend the driver who killed Casey, so stop it already!
Rest in peace Casey! It is obvious how loved you are!!
Talia

  1. Mike said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 9:09 pm

Does anyone know what Tolly’s blood level was?

  1. Nameless said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 9:14 pm

They aren’t releasing it. Said it could take months. Probably an attempt by his lawyer to keep him from serving justic sooner. That in itself is a tragedy. He was drunk, and they don’t want anyone to know. If they put it off for a while, it lets him go free for that much longer. How stupid.

  1. Misty said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 9:39 pm

I went to the funeral home tonight to pay my respects to Casey’s family. I saw a very crowded place full of people who loved this wonderful human being. His brother was unconsolable and angry and rightfully so. To Casey’s family: you are in my prayers and I will not forget Casey! I’m supporting M.A.D.D. with my time and my money as of right now to get justice for the victims of drunk drivers.
I urge the community to do the same no matter who’s “side” you’re on!
R.I.P. Casey

-MTH

  1. Katie Casad said,

 

on March 15th, 2007 at 10:25 pm

I have been sitting here tonight trying to stop my mind from reeling, so that I can sleep. Not happening. I have had so many strange emotions floating through me over the last few days. The ONE that I have noticed the most is anger. I am not usually a very angry person; I love life, my family, friends, and usually just life in general. I have realized that the last few days, I have just not been myself. I am angry. After seeing the hurt and pain Casey’s family and friends are going through, it only made my anger worse.

A drunk driver killed Casey Bokhoven. That drunk driver was a local “celebrity.” That drunk driver refused a breathalyzer. That drunk driver failed a sobriety test. That drunk driver didn’t have to pay one dime to get out of jail. How is this even close to being okay? I know that when some people get arrested for minor things, they have to at least come up with a bond. Why is this drunk driver different? Is it because he is a local celebrity?

Another thing that angers me is the rally and support for this “celebrity” drunk driver. The public statements being made about poor poor pitiful drunk driver. (I continue to refer to him as “drunk driver” because the sound and sight of his name makes me sick to my stomach.) I have watched today as people have posted numerous comments about “poor” drunk driver. And I also watched as several people defended him. While several people tried to dig up dirt on the deceased. While several people made disrespectful comments that were read by the family and friends of Casey. What is wrong with this world today that someone could say things like were said to a grieving family?

Another thing that is really bothering me is what kind of a message are we sending to our society? To our community? If this person walks away with a little bitty sentence and gets a slap on the wrist, what are we saying? That it’s okay to get wasted and drive a car? That it’s okay to drive drunk and kill another human being? Are we saying that if you are a “local celebrity” and are well known, it is okay to do this? I can’t help but think that had it been the other way around, and Casey had driven drunk and killed that jerk, Casey would be sitting in jail tonight…charged with probably 2nd degree murder, and facing a lot of prison time. The actual murderer in this case…where is he tonight? At home with his family, that’s where. While Casey’s family and friends were there at the funeral home saying goodbye to their son, brother, uncle, friend…his killer was safe in his bed at home. Is that fair? Is that justice? My father (who is not a very nice person, but that’s another long story) used to remind me all the time when I was younger that “life isn’t fair.” He never said much that I believed, but I do believe that statement. If life was “fair,” Casey’s murderer would be behind bars tonight and not at home with his family.

I believe my anger is still here. I believe I am still angry about the way this whole case has been handled. But, sadness is growing to the top of my emotions list. I am still OUTRAGED at the way some people are acting, and still outraged about how some people are treating this drunk driver. But after seeing the hurt in Casey’s parents’ eyes…in his brother’s eyes…in all of his family members’ eyes and his friends’ eyes.. the sadness in my heart grows stronger.

I am going to try to get some sleep now…thank you to anyone who made it to the bottom of this. I am just trying to put all of my thoughts out there so that maybe at least I can make sense of them.

To my friends and family: I love you all very much. I hope and pray that wherever you all are tonight that you are all safe.

To Casey’s family, friends, and everyone effected and hurt because that drunk driver took his precious life: I am so so sorry for your loss. I hope and pray that the drunk driver will have to pay for what he has done. If he does not have to pay in this life, I feel confident that he will in another. God is the ultimate Judge.

  1. Jay King said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 1:35 am

Hey Casey, look at this nonsense. Fuck this trivial bullshit. You ready to go? I am.

  1. Jay King said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 1:41 am

Katie, absolutely no disrespect. Your wonderful words were not present at the time of my frustration reaching it’s peak.

  1. Meg said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 6:28 am

About Tolley Carr,
My best friend is a bartender on burke. He also lives on first st where the inccident occurred. he like casey walks to and from work everyday. Apparently when tolly entered the bar he was beyond wasted and was refused service based on that fact. he was also offered a cab by more than one person and he refused. I did not know casey but my heart goes out to the family. I think about how that could have been anyone of my friends. as for sympathy for tolly I have none. my friends heard the accident and went to help. tolly was so drunk when he got out of the car he didn’t even realize he had hit someone. he was worried about the dent in his truck and not calling the cops. He took a life and no amount of i’m sorry is going to change that. And as for sympathy he deserves none. He made a choice to get into that truck after being offered cabs by several different people. Now he has to take the responsibility for it. AS for a second chance- are you kidding? where is casey’s second chance?

  1. Donna said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 6:57 am

In reading all the comments here, I see so much hate and anger. What’s happened is a tragedy for everyone. I will say a prayer for all those involved and I know that God will give them all the strength to go on.

  1. Kerry Flynn said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 7:45 am

Let’s start off today on here by thinking of what Casey’s family and friends are readying themselves for: his memorial service tonight. Today is gonna be another tough one for them all. Please no arguing about who’s wrong, who’s right on here today. I am sure that Sean and his friends will be on here again, so let’s all show our support to them by telling them that they are in our hearts, minds, and prayers.
As Katie said before, I did not ever know Casey, but any friend of Alex’s must have been something special. I’m sorry Alex, for your loss. I’m sorry to Sean, Kim, Casey’s parents, his girlfriend, his roommate, his co-workers, his other friends, and everyone else who’d life he entered. He seems to have touched EVERYONE’s life he entered. He seems to have been a very special person and will live on as that special person in the hearts of many.

My prayers are with you all today.

~Kerry

  1. Katie Casad said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 7:53 am

Great idea, Kerry.

My hearts and prayers and with each of you today as you lay Casey to rest. You will always have our support.

~Katie (& Doug)

  1. questions said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 9:24 am

I too will be praying Casey family and friends today, as he is laid to rest.

But I was thinking about all this today when a question pop up in my head. Does any know about the person that was in the truck with TC? Was that person also to drunk to know what was going on. I mean no disrespect to that person or anyone else. So please don’t take it that way. The reason I ask is Alot of the times when friends go out drinking together one of them will say to themself “HEY my friend is drinking to much so I better stop drinking so I can make sure we get home okay. But I also know that even if that friend does stop and is able to drive, the person that has drunk so much doesn’t hand over the keys. I know that person that was with TC also got hurt and I hope they will be fine, and I mean know disrespect to that person and in know why saying their at fault just wondering what might have took place.

  1. Ben Browder said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 9:58 am

I dont WANT to come back to this site but i keep finding myself here.

However I have nothing to say except you’ll always be there with us at gatherings and what not Casey 1.

We all love you and the rest of the Bokhovens!

  1. Seth B said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 11:18 am

All this shit is ridiculous it’s all a lot of back and forth that doesn’t resolve anything. A bunch of fuck you’s. Casey’s dead, Tolly killed him. Casey had a DWI on his record, he also didn’t drive even after his suspension was up, he felt horrible for that. Tolly should too, his choices led to someone’s death. He knew the consequences of those choices.

Rob, you’re an idiot, you’re implying that we put 84,000 people a year in jail for “2nd degree murder”. And you’re an asshole for digging up shit knowing his brother is reading this.

What I would like to see, is none of my friends ever drive drunk ever again. I think we should take the choice out of it at the end of the night. There is way too much room to make a bad decision, especially when you’re impaired and can’t make a rational decision. How the fuck am I supposed to know my Blood Alcohol Content after a night of drinking? There is no black and white, until you’re in the back of a cop car blowing in the tube. This happens to way too many families and it has been happening for decades. It’s never going to stop, but 84,000 people a year getting caught driving drunk not to mention all the ones that didn’t get pulled, is just way to god damn many. With those kind of odds, how can we expect people to make good choices at the end of the night? There has to be a solution and the rhetoric isn’t working, shit the cops try hard to nail you, but that isn’t working either. How can we expect this problem to go away if the cops can’t keep up with the volume of people that drive impaired. It’s the system that’s fucked up. People go drink with their keys in their pockets, drink their problems away, then step out of the bar and take less than one second to evaluate their own ability to control a machine that wieghs a ton or more. How can we ever expect this problem to go away if at every night there are thousands of people stepping out of bars all accross the nation taking that half-second to justify their own sobriety when they have no clue what percent of alcohol is coursing through their veins? Whatever justification they use to end up in control of that machine is wrong, but somehow people today have a twisted sense of responsibility when it comes to their sobriety. We all know it’s wrong, everyone knows it is, but it happens everyday. It’s such an easy decision to make when you don’t want to hail a cab and you’re standing next to your car and you just want to be home and you might make it home without getting pulled, but it only takes that one time and you’re trying to sober up in a cell trying to answer questions about someone’s death.

Sean mentioned breathalyzers at the door of the bar, I don’t know what it would take to implement, but I’m all for it if it keeps my friends from dying. And I’m all for a local celebrity being made an example of. I miss Casey and I do not want to go to another friends funeral.

  1. dufus said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 11:31 am

enough is enough…let this go, this is not the place to discuss any of this…it is too hurtful to so many right now…everyone, just please stop.

  1. Thomas said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 11:33 am

I don’t get why alocohol gets blamed for so many of these tragic situations. RECKLESSNESS is to blame. And the person who said this is NOT murder, of course it is. It may not be premeditated, but there is still a body and a murder weapon. And I’m not one of these MADD crusaders. There is absolutely nothing wrong with drinking and driving. I’ve done it a million times. Shit, the first time I ever drove I was drunk. The difference is, I’ve never even put so much as a scratch in my car. That’s b/c I’m not fucking dumb and I pay attention. And anyone out there who thinks this is appalling can kiss my ass, b/c you have probably been in an accident sober. Drunk driving shouldn’t even be a crime. But when you break real laws under aggravated circumstances, they should throw the book at you. SO TOLLY, FROM ONE DRUNK DRIVER TO ANOTHER: YOU DESERVE TO BURN IN HELL.

  1. Jon said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 12:02 pm

I am not a “blogger” and I think that most blogs aren’t much different from bathroom graffiti in that they are often generated by narcissistic people who do not have any idea what they are talking about (as is evidenced by several of the comments posted here), but some of the things I have read here are disturbing, so I felt it necessary to join this blog culture in an effort to bring some things to light. First, attacking an idea is fine, but attacking a person is the heighth of stupidity. Why do you all feel it necessary to attack Rob? He is a rarity in this blog culture in that he is asking a hypothetical question designed to get people to THINK (which I know is quite unpopular in this day and time). If you disagree with his ideas that is fine, but when inarticulate people who feel it necessary to punctuate every sentence with “f**k” and “a**hole” in place of commas, semicolons, correct grammar and spelling and other conventions of Standard Written English resort to name-calling and personal attacks, it destroys the spirit of what this should be–a place to articulate different points of view and create an informed, intelligent dialogue. Instead, it becomes a place to rant, rave and proudly (read ignorantly) display a holier-than-thou neo-Puritanical idea of all that is “fair, just and right.” Those of you who feel Tolly Carr is the devil incarnate or a callous murderer who deserves to be strung up and shot are the embodiment of the very thing Socrates warns us of in a democracy–a mob. And according to an earlier post, you are PROUD of that title, and then have the unmitigated audacity to call out for what you refer to as “justice.” A world in which an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is “justice” is a world in which everyone is blind and in need of dentures. And Rob points that out to you, so he’s the jerk? How is that logical? What you have done is conflate “justice” with “revenge.” The two are mutually exclusive. And I don’t know how much law you know, but in order to charge Carr with first-degree murder, you have to prove intent. Good luck with that. But the fact that someone would even articulate such an uninformed perspective proves two things: 1. Your own ignorance and 2. That you are not such a good champion for the cause you are banning together for. Do you think Bokhoven would be PROUD when you cry out for the blood of a person you don’t even know; a person who, like us all, is prone to make mistakes? And if you could take Carr by the neck and strangle the life out of him, would it bring Bokhoven back? Or would you hurt/punish Carr because you are self-centered and narcissistic enough to think it would make you “feel better?” Carr has made a horrible mistake, and whether or not he does jail time is irrelevant, to some degree. The conscience is a powerful thing (though some people appear to be devoid of such an entity), and I can guarantee that the hell Carr’s conscience is placing him in is far worse than the dread fury of your combined anger. What we have here is emotion overtaking reason. And that is understandable, but I sincerely hope that you will not persist in allowing your heart to rule your head. To do so is dangerous for all of us. And for those of you who refuse to see the danger in not tempering your emotions with what Poe once called “the sober eye of Reason,” I take comfort in knowing that you are probably hot-blooded, emotional, ignorant and self-serving enough to blog or play around with your MySpace account, but not intelligent, rational, reasonable, open-minded and motivated enough to vote or run for office. I truly would not want most of you making decisions for me, and take comfort in the fact that you probably can’t make well-informed decisions for yourselves and will never have the opportunity or the gumption to make decisions for anyone.

  1. Kyle said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 12:16 pm

Hey Jon, why hasn’t Tolly apologized then? A simple I am sorry for your loss, it was my mistake? Where is that for Casey’s family and friends? He just does not want to admit his guilt!

  1. Kerry Flynn said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 12:24 pm

Can we please just all leave this site alone other than a simple “I am praying for your family”. I know as well as you all do that people like Sean and Ben will be on here to check again and gee, it sure would be so nice if all it read was “I am sorry for your loss. You are in my prayers.”

Guess that’s too much to ask from people?
A litte compassion from one human being to another?

  1. Kerry Flynn said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 12:27 pm

^I say this, and I don’t even know Casey or his brother personally, and I am assuming alot of visitors/ commentors to this site are in the same boat.
Please just show compassion from one human being to another and stop all the fighting and arguing and finger pointing. Today I think Sean and Casey’s family and friends could definitely use a little “support” from the community, as they are saying their finaly goodbyes to someone they love so much.
PLEASE. Be compassionate.

  1. Katie Casad said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 12:27 pm

Jon,

I think it’s safe to say that this blog is finished. Do not come in here and try to stir up more trouble. That is all you are trying to do here. Why not just let it go? Why come in here with your condescending attitude and call Casey’s friends and family who are obviously hurting and angry (and rightfully so) ignorant and self-serving? I don’t think anyone who has posted out of anger for the things being said here is ignorant. Angry? Yes. Rightfully so.

Who do you think that you are to come in here and call all of us ignorant and not intelligent, rational, reasonable people? IF Casey was your brother, I bet you would not be very rational less than ONE week after he was ran over by a drunk driver. You have NO right to sit and talk down to these people who loved Casey.

I, for one, know quite a bit about the law, thank you very much. I actually go to work to big law firm every single day. I speak with attorneys on a daily basis. It will be hard to convict Tolly of 2nd degree murder, yes…but that’s not to say it can’t happen. I, myself, have seen people convicted of worse for doing less, so don’t sit here and act like you are “all knowing” and are above any of us.

I’m glad that you decided to post here…it reminds me that there are “holier-than-thou” people who want to comment on EVERY situation, no matter what the situation is. Oh, and I’m thinking of running for President, so I’ll be sure to count you in as a supporter of my campaign. Jerk.

Now I’m headed over to the NEW thread that’s been started in memory of Casey…May be rest in peace.

  1. Kerry Flynn said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 12:31 pm

LAST POST: to sum it all up, the golden rule makes sense. if someone very close to you died, a child, a mother, a father, a brother, a sister, a friend; wouldn’t you want people to show a little compassion? Please do unto others as you would have them do to you.

Comments on this site have been FAR from compassionate (or following the simple “golden rule”). And since everyone is following it, you can all see that Casey’s brother himself has witnessed it all, trying to defend his brother and his honor. Please stop and be supportive of the family, as it is what you would wish others would do for you in this SAME situation, if you EVER have to go through it.

  1. katelyn said,

 

on March 16th, 2007 at 3:20 pm

sean i just wanted to let you know that you’ve been amazing this week. this whole tragedy made me think about my brothers and idk if i could have the strength that you’ve had. i’m sure last night was hard, but i hope it helped you and your family see how loved casey and you are. i know you hear this constantly, but casey and your family have been in my prayers ever since i got the phone call. i’ll be seeing you tonight.

  1. Ann said,

 

on March 18th, 2007 at 12:06 am

i have a friend who’s son has went through the same thing Tolly is going through. they are not allowed to get in touch with the victim’s family. anyone in their right mind should know that. it is a tragedy what has happen. my heart goes out to both families.

  1. Jesse Wilson said,

 

on March 18th, 2007 at 10:59 am

I was wondering why didn’t the person in the car with him drive? was she wasted???

the point of it all, we really need tougher laws..

my heart goes out to the victim’s family, but I know that may not mean much to them right now. if this happened to someone in my family, i would be ready to take action against tolly myself. it’s only natural to feel rage and anger against the person that did this to their loved one. who wouldn’t??

i don’t care if it’s tolly carr, betty joe, or michael jackson - - wrong is wrong!!! and this situation is probably even more difficult for the family because tolly is a public figure. i would say to the family, use that to your advantage. force the media to cover how you feel about laws, hold a march, gather the community together and organize MADD to come to into the community and bars to educate people about drinking and driving, share your story with the same kids tolly probably shared his “career path” with, protest, organize a service between bars and taxi cabs that can enforce people have to take a cab - not their choice, organize a rally that will stand for holding bars accountable on when to say when to their customers, take your anger and rage and let it help another family.

after this story hit, i told myself that i would NEVER get behind the wheel again after too many drinks. i could have been in tolly’s shoes. It’s the lowest thing in the world to bring up casey’s DUI!! what does that have to do with anything? he is not the one on trial. it should just go to show more of the reason the situation is dealing with two human beings and this could have happened to anyone of us - -we could have been tolly or casey. the fact that someone would bring up casey’s past in beyond me.

if tolly were my brother, i would feel his pain as well. But we can’t ignore the fact that a family has lost their love one forver. there is no bringing him back. there is no way for them to physically see or speak to him again. it’s as easy as ABC, but apparently some people do not see it that way. no - -we are not tolly’s judge. yes, his family is dealing with a lot as well, but we have to admit; there seems to be a bias reaction given the fact tolly is who he is. i don’t know how he’s feeling so i can only imagine.

sean - -i have 4 brothers and i know if this happened to one of them , the media, tolly, the state, citizens, etc..would not control my final word. i would go as far as using WSSU as a resource to help with any activities i did in the memory of my family member. use wxii and all the other news stations that are covering your story. Also, if I were you, I would get off this message board. It will only make you more upset…

  1. Ann said,

 

on March 18th, 2007 at 12:26 pm

i am not up holding tolly but how many of you have drink and drove??? it could have been you that hit casey.

  1. m turner said,

 

on March 18th, 2007 at 2:04 pm

jesse - -i agree with what you said. This could have been anyone. The fact that Casey had a DUI means he could have done this to someone, but he didn’t. It happened to him. The point is, TC needs to be held accountable for his actions. This should be an example for the community instead of bashing. We know he didn’t do it on purpose, but the point is it happened. That cannot be taken away. Bless all involved and I hope justice prevails..

  1. Jamie said,

 

on March 20th, 2007 at 10:25 am

I am deeply sorry about the lost of Casey, but if Tolly wasnt a sports boardcaster, then I believe and feel that this would be blown like the way it is. What people do outside their work hours is their business. I didnt have the chance to meet Casey but from he’s friends and family, he was a awsome young man. I have meet Tolly from here and there, and in my opinion he’s a great man, Tolly made a big mistake and he will live with it for the rest of he’s life. I have a perosnal experience with losing my brother to a drunk driver in 03. I feel your pain but I have came to the point where the person that took my brother away from my family and forgave him. I feel that you should do the same. Again, I am sorry for the lost of your loved one. I’m praying for Tolly.

Jamie

  1. anon said,

 

on March 20th, 2007 at 1:16 pm

Seems to me a few years ago when a man nobody knew was drunk and killed students from Wake Forest, the crowd went wild when he was charged with murder. I’ve watched TC for years on tv and always liked him. But, he did something stupid and now a young life is over. TC should be charged just like any other schmuck that gets behind the wheel too drunk to drive. Hate his career is over, hate he’ll have to go somewhere else to have any simulance of life after he serves his time, hate he made such a stupid choice. But it was his choice and it will be his sentence to serve. Blessings to the Casey’s family and to TC’s family.

  1. A friend said,

 

on March 21st, 2007 at 5:37 am

I will start by saying that I do have a vested interest in this case. I knew Tolly before he became an anchor. I did not know Casey, but that doesn’t make his death or his family’s loss any less painful. With that said, my prayers go out on behalf of both familes! It saddens me that Casey Bockhoven lost his life to someone else’s bad judgement. However, all of the negative words that have been written about Tolly in this blog or anywhere else will not bring Casey back. The world lost two wonderful people that night. I know that many of you may not agree, but the Tolly Carr as his friends and family knew, died that night as well. As for Tolly only being concerned for himself when he asked that the police be called……..Do you really think that he would have reacted the same way had he known that he had just taken someone’s life? To say that Tolly is not remorseful because he has not made a public statement……….Would it really make anyone feel better about what happened? Would it have made anyone feel better if he had walked into Casey’s funeral and apologized? Would he not still be called names and ostrasized? How many of you know Tolly? How many of you have spoken to him? Let’s not be hypocrits! Do you really think that Tolly has gone a day without wishing he had not taken Casey’s life? Those of you that are wishing harm to Tolly are just as bad as those that bring harm to others. I don’t mean to sound calous, but it is what it is and we must come together and try to prevent this from happening again to someone else. How many Casey’s and Tolly’s does there have to be before we wake up? If you really care, replace all of the negatives with positives. Instead of negative blogging and in honor of Casey, research fedearal grants that will enable the city to provide rides home from bars for the intoxicated. A service like that would prevent us from judging those that have DUI and DWI records like Casey and Tolly. If you drink and drive it doesn’t matter if you were the one that got lucky and didn’t take anyone else’s life that time. You are just as guilty if you decide that it is ok to play russian roulette with innocent lives. We all must be careful with how we rush to judge Tolly. The truth is that anyone of us could be in Tolly’s shoes on any given day. Negligent is negligent even if it means that you were driving while talking on your cell phone without a handsfree device, and hit someone and killed them. Many of us do that everyday and it is just as illegal as drunk driving! In closing, I know that the Carr family is suffering a great deal, not only for themselves but for Casey and his family. Please everyone, let’s be respectful of both the Bockhoven and Carr families.

  1. Lori said,

 

on March 21st, 2007 at 10:51 am

That was very well said. A Friend, I want to commend you on a Blog that has said more than any of the Blogs on here. Thank you so very much for saying what many of us wanted to say but could not put it into words. My God Richly Bless You!!! I know you allowed God to speak through you!!!

  1. Jamie said,

 

on March 21st, 2007 at 1:00 pm

A Friend, I agree with you. Pray for both families they have both lost a love one. The Traid needs to help both families.

  1. Jacqui Causey said,

 

on March 22nd, 2007 at 1:24 am

It’s time to stop this now. It’s too early to ask the friends and family of Casey Bokhoven to forgive Tolly Carr. That doesn’t make them unflinching, vengeful people. A young man died a matter of days ago. I would like to think that forgiveness will come in time for THEIR sakes, not Tolly’s. For the record, my absence from this conversation is based on the assumption that it had been removed out of respect for the Bokhoven family. The following is from a blog I posted elsewhere.

This is not addressed to the people who loved Casey, or his family. This is not addressed to the strangers whose sadness is sincere. Hell, this isn’t even FROM someone who knows the family well. But I have been watching events unfold, and I’m pretty disgusted.

From the blog that wouldn’t die to the news van that I watched circling the parking lot at Casey’s memorial, to the rumors of Tolly Carr’s suicide, and now this, I am mortified. Apparently, Casey’s apartment was broken into.

So I’m going to say this as a common plea to the members of this community, and if you agree with me, please feel free to repost it.

The Bokhovens and their friends are REAL PEOPLE! This isn’t an event that has been chartered for your entertainment. A PERSON lost his life. These aren’t characters on tv. They deserve their privacy and their time to heal, so let’s give it to them!

This tragedy sent a shockwave through this city. I have seen the best and the worst of people this week. I have been awed and disgusted simultaneously for days. Obviously the Bokhovens are not the only ones who need healing. So LET’S START HEALING! If you’re an artist, paint it! If you’re a musician, play it! If you’re a writer, write it! And if you’ve got money, give some of it to M.A.D.D! Talk about it. Feel it. But if you hear a rumor, don’t spread it. And if you have an opportunity to choose between doing nothing and being DESTRUCTIVE, do nothing. This could be your family. What would you want for your brother? If we all ask each other that question from this point on, maybe Sean and Kimberly Bokhoven and Alex Sin and all of the others whose grief is very real and horrible will have a chance to start their own healing.

  1. Rob said,

 

on March 22nd, 2007 at 11:15 am

“Censorship reflects society’s lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime.”
– Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart

This blog doesn’t die because the people denouncing it continue to prolong its lifespan.

  1. Marshall Brown said,

 

on March 31st, 2007 at 6:38 pm

#183